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D-Rider · #16 Post by **D-Rider** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:42 pm

Dusty wrote:I don't go along with the modern trend to replace the sprockets with every new chain. Provided the chain is well maintained, i.e. cleaned and lubricated and replaced before it is excessively worn or the sprockets themselves are obviously worn, you should be able to change the sprockets with every second chain. Admittedly, it is likely that the chain will wear slightly faster when fitted to old sprockets but the difference will be minimal and you will lose no performance but you will save money. If you ignore the maintenance of your chain, then certainly you will need to replace all components at once, and fequently! I'm not sure where the trend for sprocket replacement originated from but I suspect it was encouraged by suppliers who offered chain and sprocket kits, and made money from the practice. I should add that I'm talking about steel sprockets here. Aluminium sprockets will certainly need replacing with every chain.

Just changed mine for the first time on the Falco - both the chain and sprockets needed changing - not based on a modern fad but because I inspected them and they were worn. This was at just over 16k miles ... but I didn't have the scottoiler for the first 4k of those so I'm hoping for better next time.

Falcorob · #17 Post by **Falcorob** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:42 pm

mrapriliafalco wrote:The kits are no good if you wanna change to a 15 front,they all come with standard gearing

Unless you ring Talon.

#18 Post by **Kwackerz** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:43 pm

on the B and Csite?
Theres multiple options in the kits list

"The gearing is standard except for Race Gearing kits. MIDDLE LETTERS OF PART NUMBER relate to sprockets ST = Steel RE = Renthal (with silver rear) HA = Renthal (with hard anodised rear) RG = Renthal with 1 tooth smaller front sprocket and 1 tooth larger rear sprocket in hard anodised."

mrapriliafalco · #19 Post by **mrapriliafalco** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:43 pm

Out of interest mrD what did you go for

D-Rider · #20 Post by **D-Rider** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:30 pm

Falcorob wrote:
mrapriliafalco wrote:The kits are no good if you wanna change to a 15 front,they all come with standard gearing
Unless you ring Talon.

Can you still get a 15t from Talon? Got my first from them but when I came to replace it, I couldn't find one on their website - so I bought a Renthal.

D-Rider · #21 Post by **D-Rider** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:37 pm

mrapriliafalco wrote:Out of interest mrD what did you go for

I fitted a DID x-ring ..... but that was not chosen against others - I'd bought a job lot of Falco spares that included a part used (low mileage) chain and sprockets. Waste not, want not so I bought a new 15t front (as the decent front sprocket that came with it was a 16t) and fitted it.

paddyz1 · #22 Post by **paddyz1** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:43 pm

I still have a Regina fitted from new with out any signs of wear after 12000 ish miles. I have had a scottoiler from new though. And now i have to extend it for the Mille swingarm

dyzio · #23 Post by **dyzio** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:48 pm

mrapriliafalco wrote:The kits are no good if you wanna change to a 15 front,they all come with standard gearing

They have 15T fronts, not sure about the rear... forgot if the biggest they had was a 42 or 43T...

Anyway...
Give them a call and you'll be able to order a non standard sprocket

D-Rider · #24 Post by **D-Rider** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:48 pm

paddyz1 wrote:I still have a Regina fitted from new with out any signs of wear after 12000 ish miles. I have had a scottoiler from new though. And now i have to extend it for the Mille swingarm

Really? I thought the scottoiler would be long enough

mrapriliafalco · #25 Post by **mrapriliafalco** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:03 pm

What number is your oiler set at,keep mucking around with mine,back to the chains the regina xrings are pretty cheap compared to the other brans,you normally get what you pay for

dyzio · #26 Post by **dyzio** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:05 pm

mrapriliafalco wrote:What number is your oiler set at,keep mucking around with mine,back to the chains the regina xrings are pretty cheap compared to the other brans,you normally get what you pay for

I wouldn't look at the numbers, I use the scientific method of, if the chain's to dry turn the oiler up. If your wheel is covered in oil, wind it down a bit ;)

Mines about 5, I think

Aladinsaneuk · #27 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:25 pm

about 2 1/4 for mine and 2 1/2 for hanna's slower one

paddyz1 · #28 Post by **paddyz1** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:57 pm

Set a number one for me

D-Rider · #29 Post by **D-Rider** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 11:28 pm

Different numbers at different times of year - no idea what the actual numbers are - just wind it up or down a bit depending on what things look like

Dusty · #30 Post by **Dusty** » Sat Jun 05, 2010 6:41 am

Absolutely my point, D-Rider; you inspected them and changed what you needed to change. Scottoilers are excellent; my Triumph is on the original chain and sprockets at 25k miles. My Falco needed a new chain at 6k although I don't know how the original owner treated it and I haven't splashed out on a Scottoiler for it yet. However, it doesn't get subjected to the same extremes of weather as the Triumph, and I clean and lube the chain regularly.I've tried various spray-on lubes but nothing beats the Scottoiler IMO. I was speaking to a technical specialist from Regina recently and he was less than complimentary about spray-on chain lubes and their suitability for O ring chains. This overview may be helpful for those currently changing chains: http://www.canyonchasers.net/shop/generic/chain.php Has anyone tried the Loobman? http://www.chainoiler.co.uk Much cheaper than a Scottoiler and provided you remember to give ita squirt, probably just as easy to obtain the right amount of lubrication as weather conditions change. I was considering buying one so any feedback will be appreciated.