Doh!Aladinsaneuk wrote:last post on that thread was january 2007....
PMSL ..... should have read a bit more closely ..... ignore last post then

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In the Alps / low montains?
If you want to have time for your lunch, a few photos, and a few roadside ciggie stops, and NOT want to start at 7AM with a rushed breakfast:
Maximum 300km / day in low mountain areas on B-Roads, and max. 250km in Alpine regions if a high pass, or small valley riding in Switzerland is involved.
That makes riding much more relaxed. You can still floor it of you want, and take extra loops up a serpentine in the afternoon, but with nsuch a goal there is no time pressure to reach a certain destination.
Don't give me the "a hard biker does +500mls / day" argument. I don't care - having done 1000km/ day before, it's just no fun at all at the end of it...
I have much more fun setting 250km / day max. touring goals - and I'm also lucky not having those long & boring ferry & motorway transfer times to get to the good riding bits in Europe
120mls / 200kms in the twistiest sections means about 4hrs solid riding. You won't average more than 50km/h average on the most scenic routes getting you above 2000m/4000ft.