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BFG · #16 Post by **BFG** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:10 pm

Tweaker wrote: If that is so, why then is it neccessary to pay to watch SKY satellite which is 'Broadcast' to the entire country, and beyond?

Sky isn't broadcast though. They are transmitted to the entire country, but the nature of the tranmission is a narrowcast.

A better example perhaps is freeview digital TV: UK TV History can be viewed by my digibox, but UK TV Gold is scrambled. It is very clear that UK TV History is broadcast and UK TV Gold is narrowcast.

I have implied permission to use the former, but none to use the latter.

I.e. If you're going to transmit, it is your responsibility to govern the nature of the transmission, particularly if you're going to transmit beyond the boundaries of your property.

Gio · #17 Post by **Gio** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:11 pm

Another thing, how do you nick something you can't feel, see, smell or carry?

Falcopops · #18 Post by **Falcopops** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:19 pm

Gio wrote:Another thing, how do you nick something you can't feel, see, smell or carry?

That prompted a thought

All those grumpy old farts that moan about me smoking poluting their lungs should be paying for part of my pack of fags.

And before you start they don't have to breathe in, it's their choice

Tweaker · #19 Post by **Tweaker** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:31 pm

Gio wrote:Another thing, how do you nick something you can't feel, see, smell or carry?

Ah.. the old 'no body, no crime' debate!

Sky isn't broadcast though. They are transmitted to the entire country, but the nature of the tranmission is a narrowcast.

A better example perhaps is freeview digital TV: UK TV History can be viewed by my digibox, but UK TV Gold is scrambled. It is very clear that UK TV History is broadcast and UK TV Gold is narrowcast.

I have implied permission to use the former, but none to use the latter.

Fair point.
the difference, however, (ignoring the fact that you have to pay a fee to do so i.e. your license fee), is that Broadcasting (the public variety) is widely understood to mean that it is specifically intended for free use by the public and is enshrined in the Broadcasting Act. WiFi is not and those people who have enough technical savvy (admitedly not much is needed) to find unsecured networks and use them, are perfectly well aware of that fact.

D-Rider · #20 Post by **D-Rider** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:32 pm

Falcopops wrote:
Gio wrote:Another thing, how do you nick something you can't feel, see, smell or carry?
That prompted a thought

All those grumpy old farts that moan about me smoking poluting their lungs should be paying for part of my pack of fags.

And before you start they don't have to breathe in, it's their choice

Dale - secure your connection - I really don't wish to steal anyone's smoke .... regrettably it is unavoidable when walking past the entrance to so many buildings these days ....

Samray · #21 Post by **Samray** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:16 pm

Falcopops wrote:That prompted a thought

All those grumpy old smokers that moan about me farts polluting their lungs should be paying for part of my plate of curry.

And before you start they don't have to breathe in, it's their choice

D-Rider · #22 Post by **D-Rider** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:22 pm

Samray wrote:
Falcopoops wrote:That prompted a thought

All those grumpy old smokers that moan about me farts polluting their lungs should be paying for part of my plate of curry.

And before you start they don't have to breathe in, it's their choice

They don't call him Falcopoops for nothing

Gio · #23 Post by **Gio** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:14 pm

Falcopops wrote:
Gio wrote:Another thing, how do you nick something you can't feel, see, smell or carry?
That prompted a thought

All those grumpy old farts that moan about me smoking poluting their lungs should be paying for part of my pack of fags.

And before you start they don't have to breathe in, it's their choice

I bet traffic polution does more damage to their lungs, especially in London and any other large city.

Maybe we should be payed for extracting the poisons from the air.