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BikerGran
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#16 Post by BikerGran » Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:44 pm

The whole situation reminds me of when I worked for the police - they kept losing good Control Room Ops and they didn't understand why.

The reason was that they kept messing them about and changing their shift patterns and the length of the shifts, in order to get better cover. Thjey never could see that with x number of operators, you could only get a finite number of hours out of them, and that no-one wants to work extra hours for nothing - would you?

The reality was that if they worked overtime they were credited with 'time in lieu' which they could take when others were covering the shifts - only there was never enough cover so they could never take the time they were owed = unpaid overtime.
Different system, same sort of result.
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#17 Post by flatlander » Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:30 am

Whilst I think it is wrong for any employer to use unpaid overtime it is an unfortunate reality of modern work life. I don't know who started the myth of it would help you get on or what would happen if you didn't do it but not seen anyone yet penalised or indeed anyone really rewarded for it.

I did several years of unpaid overtime foolishly for one company but was lucky enough to be able to demand paying for it when I left. I don't think that there is a clear answer as I agree that no obe should be manipulated onto unpaid work. I also don't see a problem with doctors having a weekend roster as long as it is paid for.
When the fire service had issues over their pensions I asked a friend in the service and he said the real issue was that it wasn't being phased in that they were simply stopping the existing arrangements dead. This meant that some who had paid in for years on a good scheme couldn't see it through.

I think that the same wrong may be evidenced here and that any changes should be phased in so that for example anyone going onto medical training from say 2018 term go knowing the new work conditions and that those already on existing schemes are dealt with separately
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#18 Post by fatboy » Sat Jan 16, 2016 6:35 pm

I have no doubt that there are many underlying issues, the main one being resistance to the selling off of the NHS.
Modern management style seems to be ' do it or be replaced, we cant allow this to interfere with profits'.
Something as vast and comprehensive as our NHS cannot be reduced a 'projected performance chart'
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