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#16 Post by Aladinsaneuk » Sat May 25, 2013 12:58 pm

imho the falco's best performance is on twisties and fast a roads - and being blessed with the full renegade system the mid range is awesome.....


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#17 Post by D-Rider » Sat May 25, 2013 1:25 pm

...... but not as much as BST wheels :smt002
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#18 Post by fatboy » Sat May 25, 2013 7:10 pm

the more I read, the more my doubts about open air boxes diminish.... ?
My falc is very often lumpy till 3500 rpm or above, if I'm not quick to twist the grip it behaves like a Ducatti. And stalls !
Throttle bodies have been recently balanced
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#19 Post by GregD-UK » Sat May 25, 2013 7:44 pm

Hi all,

Hi fatboy, try fitting a 15 tooth front sprocket on :smt002
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#20 Post by blinkey501 » Sat May 25, 2013 7:54 pm

fatboy wrote:the more I read, the more my doubts about open air boxes diminish.... ?
My falc is very often lumpy till 3500 rpm or above, if I'm not quick to twist the grip it behaves like a Ducatti. And stalls !
Throttle bodies have been recently balanced
Do the valve clearance check.
Take the bike to Griff and ask him to tune the motor.
The oasis I have was running fine in my eyes. Griff tuned the motor and now its running on two cylinders correctly.
The difference is day and night.
The thing is with the falco it will always be a better bike than I a rider even with the bike in standard form.
With the exception of a few on the forum this will be true of the majority of the falco owners.
The air box mod will not make me a better rider. It will not make the bike that much faster. Its about Induction roar. (Grin factor)
A K@N air filter over standard is better because it can be cleaned and used time and time again.
A K@N over standard gives a couple more BHP over standard.
Finally a K@N saves money in the long run over standard.
If you are happy with your bike and ride to a good standard you do not need to do the air box mod.
The air box mod may be advantageous if.......
You do the mid section mod.
You have a good exhaust system.
You are having a chip fitted or
You have the bike dyno'ed with a set of 54's and a power commander.
With all the above you will see big gains. :smt002
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#21 Post by D-Rider » Sat May 25, 2013 9:04 pm

I hear what you are saying Jay but the thing that I've found having only fitted the rene in the last week is that in certain circumstances (low speed, low revs) it makes the bike more manageable.
No it doesn't make me a better rider but it makes the same rider manage the bike a little better.
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#22 Post by gazzo » Sat May 25, 2013 11:42 pm

I'm with you on that one D-R, I put a MWR filter on with one of Ed's Forza chips and it runs so much smoother low down, i,e don't have to keep slipping the clutch so much turning into side roads or travelling at low speed in traffic.
I have a gunson gastester and made up a test kit to fix to the headers with changeover valves.
I have got the trim pots set at 12 o'clock and found the settings for the air screws on the throttle bodies to be best set at 2 1/4 turns out for the front pot and 1 5/8 turns out on the rear.
This gave me a co reading of approx 4% on the rear and 3 1/2% on the front.
I think I read somewhere, possibly Gabro said it should be about 1/2% difference and roughly around the 4% mark.
Obviously this is only a rough reading as its only a cheap exhaust analyser and whether this is correct, I'm not sure but it runs ok for me.
I am going to try to get up to Griff and do my front forks in July so will probably ask him to check then.
Mind you I did mess up my tester because where the exhaust fumes were being 'force fed' to the unit there was to much pressure and moisture going through, the units drain couldnt cope with it and unbeknown to me I stored it wet after setting my co levels and it wouldn't read the levels correctly when I went to use it again the following week. I think it has messed up what Gunson call a pulse meter, I've got to send it away to them or repair. :smt013
Serves me right, I should have put another drain/pressure relief inline before the meter. :smt022

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#23 Post by D-Rider » Sun May 26, 2013 8:47 am

Hi Gazzo - I've bought a gastester too to do the same job but just not had time yet to make up adapters etc.
Any info and pics you have of yours would be greatly appreciated :smt004
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#24 Post by gazzo » Sun May 26, 2013 10:23 am

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There ya go D-R. what i should have done was put another T piece inline just before the gastester so to reduce the moisture/pressure going to the unit. :smt009

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#25 Post by blinkey501 » Sun May 26, 2013 10:28 am

Looking good :smt002
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#26 Post by D-Rider » Sun May 26, 2013 12:00 pm

Excellent ..... at the risk of being a right PITA (to save me the effort of having to research it), what fittings do I need to collect?

What would the extra T-piece do? vent to atmosphere?
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#27 Post by flatlander » Sun May 26, 2013 7:07 pm

Anyone know of a good search function that might help ? :smt003 :smt003 :smt017
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#28 Post by Aladinsaneuk » Sun May 26, 2013 7:09 pm

Roflmao


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Re: Lumpy...

#29 Post by fatboy » Sun May 26, 2013 7:26 pm

Hi fatboy, try fitting a 15 tooth front sprocket on :smt002[/quote]
Its not a gearing issue, its a tuning issue, not occurring all the time.
I'm a big fan of higher rpm pullaways,sometimes it just hesitates, i think we'ere going and the bike thinks huh huh huh, pull clutch in and more revs ect
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#30 Post by flatlander » Sun May 26, 2013 8:19 pm

Till I changed the sprocket I never used to bother with first ... Wait or. Was that brakes ;)
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