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Falconihlist · #16 Post by **Falconihlist** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 6:29 pm

I went for the wire mesh option, use of a pair of lockwire pliers, and job done. No bolts or anything to worry about.

fatboy · #17 Post by **fatboy** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:01 pm

I was too easily seduced by big shiney stuff !
Must admit its substantial kit but the production dimensions are not accurate

Aladinsaneuk · #18 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:14 pm

Do you have Photos?

I have fitted three sets of beowulfs to falcos and have always found the fit good

#19 Post by **Kwackerz** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:32 pm

Cathcart wrote:Shall be fitting a 15t front sprocket, gear indicator and tomorrow hopefully fitting Dunlop d212 gp pro tyres front and back, previously used for qualifying, that's if my wheel weights arrive.

Toying with fitting a cheap nasty alarm and immob to stop the opportunists...

Hi Cathcart
You snuck in there !

Welcome to RiderSite

Aladinsaneuk · #20 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 5:01 am

nod

he did sneak in....

and I hope he has sorted the sidestand out before anything else... and as for alarms..... ugh ! :)

welcome - and ignore that yellow puddle in the corner - some of our older members have a small problem with continence, and Andy does try so very hard....

Cathcart · #21 Post by **Cathcart** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:46 am

Cheers folks, the mrs is always saying I snuck it in....
Personally I don't like alarms but I also don't like folk touching the bike, its a tough call. Reason for a cheap nasty one is that if I get any problems I can rip it out at road side.

Found my sidestand bolts very very loose just after I bought it, undecided what route to go down. Want a straight bolt on, no problem option. Thinking of cutting off the foot and welding it back on.

Cheers again lads.

D-Rider · #22 Post by **D-Rider** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:54 am

Hi and welcome.

I had to tighten my sidestand bolts again at the weekend - they do seem to work loose every so often. a liberal application of loctite was applied this time.

As for welding on a bigger foot to the sidestand, it's a bit better but doesn't address the real problem. The USA market sidestand is probably the best solution (but its bracket needs modifying to fit on to our bikes), the Gixer sidestand is probably the next best. It does bolt on with no mods but if you want to keep the sidestand switch, it needs to be modified. Apparently the Honda Firestorm/Fireblade/Fireplace (can't remember which) stand bolts straight on.

slickliner6 · #23 Post by **slickliner6** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:14 am

2005 blade stand is on mine,,,,,straight swop no messing

Cathcart · #24 Post by **Cathcart** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 10:51 am

Does the bike lean over at a more normal angle?

Thinking fireblade is where its at... I like having the switch, just incase...

slickliner6 · #25 Post by **slickliner6** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 10:57 am

on mine it sits a little more upright,but is A LOT more sturdy feeling.

D-Rider · #26 Post by **D-Rider** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:03 am

I've got the Gixer stand and it sits at a reassuring angle whatever shock length I select (standard crappy Blue spring shock or Ohlins wound out for max rear ride-height).

The key thing is that it gives the bike a wider "footprint" - touching down further from the line between the 2 wheels and making a bigger triangle which is much more stable

Aladinsaneuk · #27 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:21 pm

there are a couple of things to consider with replacement sidestands

First off - do you have the standard blue shock?
do you have a belly pan fitted?

reason for being aware of these is:

MOST replacement rear shocks - even the wite spring mille unit, are taller - and that can affect the lean angle of the bike
The belly pan, especially the earlier skidmarx units, can affect the operation of the sidestand - ie, it can foul and needs fettling

In no particular order and with my views added

The easiest stand to fit is the Fireblade stand from a 2005/6 model - a new one is around £55 quid from a stealer - YOU ONLY NEED THE LEG! the aprilia sidestand switch fits in with no changes needed. I have fitted a few of these for folk and I will be honest and say that imho they are a touch too upright with the standard sachs blue spring shock - they are excellent with the white spring mille shocks

The USA spec sidestand will also fitt strraight in BUT you do need to take an angle grinder to the top of it - it has three mounting bracket holes, where as the euro one has only two. It has no problems with the side stand switch :)

Aladinsaneuk · #28 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:30 pm

Next up the gixxer modded stand. As badger-pubes said, they do make a large difference to the foot print of the bike - look at the standard sidestand when deployed from behind the bike and note that the bike is not only very upright, but how close to the centre line the foot of the stand is - ie it would not take much to knock it over.... To mod one os these takes a fair amount of work and does involve welding. When fitted I have found that some of them need to have a little fettling done to the bellypan mounting.... I currently have one of these fitted

Next with have the honda firestorm leg - this is a straight fit with the only changes that need to be made are that a hole needs to be drilled for the sidestand switch to make it work properly and that the kick down lever needs to be adjusted with a large hammer - I used one of these for quite a long time :)

We must also consider the Bubseywoo sidestands - for a long time this was the desired choice of many BUT - he changed his fabricators and the resulting stands werte shite. The original and the Mark 2 bubseywoo stands were very good but they are rare and how would you know untill you fit them.... Personally, avoid i think - the original one I had was a good piece of kit though!

There were also some tilt plates sold that kicked the sidestand out further.... I have never seen one fitted but i would be a touch sceptical....

So - my advice?

change the rear shock and get a fireblade stand - if you do not want to do that, get a firestorm one - though they are getting hard to find cheaply!

Cathcart · #29 Post by **Cathcart** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:56 pm

Well, that's the clearest advice I've found on the subject. I have done some searching on the subject but not alot.
Chances are I won't change the shock, trying my best to stop spending loads on bikes. We all end up going a bit mad, I've been saying for years I need to stop.
I've still not fitted the stuff I said, still awaiting wheel weights so I can get the 190 balanced up...

D-Rider · #30 Post by **D-Rider** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:06 pm

The tilter is not much help - it extends the footprint but as the leg is the same length it leans over more and the centre of mass comes a bit too close to the boundary of the triangle.