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#16 Post by blinkey501 » Sat Aug 25, 2012 6:09 am

BikerGran wrote:Get a cruiser.............
Er no bobbi although i do like the triumph rocket 3, cruisers are not my style :smt037
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#17 Post by D-Rider » Sat Aug 25, 2012 7:59 am

blinkey501 wrote:
BikerGran wrote:Get a cruiser.............
Er no bobbi although i do like the triumph rocket 3, cruisers are not my style :smt037
Hey Jay, Bobbi lives by the coast ..... she may have meant one of these ......

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#18 Post by mangocrazy » Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:32 am

blinkey501 wrote:I have talked to pete and he did say before graham posted i may be too tense when riding.
Mental tiredness we did stop on regular occasions , but we was batting on a bit on roads i had never been down before..
Dont get me wrong i was happy with the pace and i did have to back off and let davshill go on occasions due to the uncertainty of what was coming next.
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My idea about a falcuono was to stop me leaning forward has much and thus not putting so much weight on my arms, and eliminate the upper body tiredness.
I will try and loosen up on the bike and see what happens.
Also graham i do have a taller screen on the bike i was riding :smt002
Jay, I'd say personally that a Falcuono style bike would only make matters worse. You'd have a lot more wind pressure on your upper body, neck and head than with a Falcuono,
due to the more upright riding position. I'd suggest trying to lean forward a bit more - this will keep you more out of the airflow and also reduce the need to grip the bars hard.

If you sit too upright you become in effect a big sail, and the wind pushes you back. You compensate by hanging on to the bars harder, which makes everything worse.

The other thing to try is sharpening the steering up so the bike turns easier. That way you're putting less effort in to get the same result.
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#19 Post by über pikey » Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:12 am

you could always try this dude

http://cycle-ergo.com/
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#20 Post by BikerGran » Sat Aug 25, 2012 8:59 pm

The cruiser was a joke, honestly!

The other thing that no-one has mentioned - when you stop, do you drink enough? And do you eat? If you don't keep hydrated, and maintain your energy levels, you get tired a lot quicker and everything becomes more difficult.

Oh and if you are riding too tense - SING! That's NOT a joke, it works!
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#21 Post by Kwackerz » Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:05 pm

Eat fruit which is slow release energy before you ride and when you stop to keep levels more constant
Drink water when ever you stop.

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#22 Post by flatlander » Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:20 pm

First stop being such a wus !!!

That's my job :smt002

All good advice including singing I do that a lot and when I do coincidentally is probably when I am most in the groove no pun intended

I also stretch out whenever I can and always try to before getting on and setting off
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#23 Post by BikerGran » Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:00 pm

Ok they did, I forgot. Doesn't have to be water, I take a flask of coffee with sugar. And I eat fruit cake rather than fresh fruit for reasons I won't go into.........
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#24 Post by blinkey501 » Sun Aug 26, 2012 4:40 am

über pikey wrote:you could always try this dude

http://cycle-ergo.com/
Thanks for that curt, quite a bit of interesting info there :smt003
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#25 Post by blinkey501 » Sun Aug 26, 2012 4:42 am

BikerGran wrote:The cruiser was a joke, honestly!

The other thing that no-one has mentioned - when you stop, do you drink enough? And do you eat? If you don't keep hydrated, and maintain your energy levels, you get tired a lot quicker and everything becomes more difficult.

Oh and if you are riding too tense - SING! That's NOT a joke, it works!
Have you heard my singing bobbi :smt108
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#26 Post by DavShill » Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:01 am

Sorry Jay - been away on biz and only just seen this. It was a great day and some of the roads we used were quite challenging. I tend to agree with Keith - it's about staying relaxed on the bike. A good tip I received at the Honda Race School (used to run at Mallory park) was to brace with your knees and try and find a posture with your forearms more or less horizontal (parallel with the ground). It takes the strain off your shoulders and neck.

Having said that I still get some aching across shoulders and neck but it happens more on a tour ride rather than a blast.

Anyway - it works for me. Hopefully see you again soon and we'll introduce the others to the delights of East and North Yorks.

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#27 Post by blinkey501 » Thu Aug 30, 2012 5:32 pm

Yes and when you do organise a run up there, i will definatly be up for that :smt023
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#28 Post by Nooj » Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:35 pm

Get some excersize!! :-p

Just riding more, more regularly will make things easier as you build up your 'bike muscles'. I've had almost a year of the bike due to finances and ache in places I never used to after a long ride.

Bike set-up is essential to get right, lots of good advice from Aladin there.
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#29 Post by Syltiz » Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:31 pm

I dont know how applicable this may be to you, but Visiting a physio may help. I was suffering from left knee pain when I had the Falco and it followed me to my Tiger and now to my FZ. Visited a physio and it turns out I have some cartilage damage from trying to be a sportsman which only manifests itself when the knee is bent prone for extended periods of time.

She taught me to strap my knee with medical tape which relieves the muscle pull on the cartilage... Or something to that effect, and now I am 95% pain free - when I remember to tape my knee.

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#30 Post by flatlander » Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:52 pm

DavShill wrote:Sorry Jay - been away on biz and only just seen this. It was a great day and some of the roads we used were quite challenging. I tend to agree with Keith - it's about staying relaxed on the bike. A good tip I received at the Honda Race School (used to run at Mallory park) was to brace with your knees and try and find a posture with your forearms more or less horizontal (parallel with the ground). It takes the strain off your shoulders and neck.

Having said that I still get some aching across shoulders and neck but it happens more on a tour ride rather than a blast.

Anyway - it works for me. Hopefully see you again soon and we'll introduce the others to the delights of East and North Yorks.
also has the added benefit of improving your waterproofedness :smt003
For the avoidance of doubt and for the benefit of my wife, not everything I may say here will be absolutely true I may on ocassion embellish a little for effect.
That said when it comes to motorbikes, I like to ride side saddle with a nice frock

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