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Servicing advice

#1 Post by phillvr6 » Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:51 am

Its about time I gave the Bike a service, namely change oil, plugs, brake fluid and clutch fluid.

Anyway, just wondering if there are any secrets I need to know?

First off, do I need to replace the two sump plugs? If so where can I get them from?

Any pointer gratefully recieved.

Thanks,

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#2 Post by Aladinsaneuk » Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:46 pm

no need to change sump plugs afaik

some debate on the oil though - I think, repeat think, that most of us use a semi synth oil, 15/50 but I am certain others will give their views....

Oh - getting the plugs out can be a bitch.... don't strip the thread :)


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#3 Post by Fausto » Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:04 pm

Agreed.

I use Putolene Force 4 15/50. Takes just under 4 litres with a filter change.
There are 3 outlets for escaping hot oil -
1 - Oil tank drain
2 - Engine Drain (can be a tight one this)
3 - Oil filter cover. (look out for the O ring)

All bolts are reusable but you may want to use new crush washers (I never have to date) Careful how tight you do the oil tank bolt up.

The front plugs are a bitch to get at. The bikes tool kit wrench will do it once you have access which involves removal of the airbox :smt012 Easy enough once you have had a go.

IMPORTANT.... clear the plug wells of muck BEFORE removing the plugs. Use an airline or rig something up like a foot pump and thin hose.

Brake and clutch fluids are straightforward enough - try to avoid introducing air to avoid lots of bleeding pain.

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#4 Post by Falcopops » Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:07 pm

Be very careful putting the sump plug back in it's very easy to strip the sump threads. Fortunately as its an oil tank as opposed to a real sump you can take it off easily and get the threads fixed. Ask me how I know twice. New crush washer for the sump plug! if you can't get one heat up the old one 'till it's glowing red (do not do this on the gas cooker if the wife is around, she will not consider it ingenuity, wait 'till she's out) then douse in water to reanneal it.

The drain plug by the filter will have been done up by the incredible hulk so persevere.

Blow all the crap out from the base of the front plug before removing it to stop it falling into the front pot.

Bleeding the clutch can be a bitch, but as long as you don't get any air in the system you shouldn't be too bad.

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#5 Post by Fausto » Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:40 pm

Ha Falcopops. Beat you to it by 3 minutes !!

That'll be the delay through the earth's core then :smt006

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#6 Post by back_marker » Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:48 pm

Most things have been covered but my tuppenny worth...

When bleeding new fluid through the back brake, take the caliper off and hold it upside down so that the bleed nipple is at the top (saves much frustration)

And when bleeding through the front brakes, don't forget to bleed at the master cylinder first before you waste loads of brake fluid trying to bleed straight from the calipers. As has already been mentioned not a problem if you don't let any air into the system but it doesn't always go to plan.
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#7 Post by Viking » Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:12 pm

Falcopops wrote:(do not do this on the gas cooker if the wife is around, she will not consider it ingenuity, wait 'till she's out)
Thus speaks the voice of painful experience!

(Been there, done that, got the scars to prove it.)
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#8 Post by Falcopops » Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:15 pm

Fausto wrote:Ha Falcopops. Beat you to it by 3 minutes !!

That'll be the delay through the earth's core then :smt006
Burn him he's a witch, must be 'coz I'm 9 hours ahead of you, so you must have reversed time just to beat me to it. Damn I thought I was competetive :smt002

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Re: Servicing advice

#9 Post by Thumper » Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:00 am

phillvr6 wrote:Its about time I gave the Bike a service, namely change oil, plugs, brake fluid and clutch fluid.

Anyway, just wondering if there are any secrets I need to know?

First off, do I need to replace the two sump plugs? If so where can I get them from?

Any pointer gratefully recieved.

Thanks,

Phill
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#10 Post by Kenif » Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:58 am

..and in the unlikely event that you are such a muppet as to strip the drain plug whilst taking it out ( :smt009 ), do a search under 'Helicoil' and how to fix the stripped threads...
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Re: Plugs

#11 Post by Falcopops » Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:27 am

Kenif wrote:..and in the unlikely event that you are such a muppet as to strip the drain plug ...
OI I resemble that remark!

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Re: Plugs

#12 Post by Kenif » Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:57 am

Falcopops wrote:
Kenif wrote:..and in the unlikely event that you are such a muppet as to strip the drain plug ...
OI I resemble that remark!
Cool. Have you got a 'I buggered it up again' thread as well? :smt002
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#13 Post by phillvr6 » Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:33 pm

Oil and plugs changed, seems quite a nice bike to work on. Certainly better than my old Z750.

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oily

#14 Post by Kenif » Mon Jun 09, 2008 2:36 pm

It's almost not right to hear of someone's first home service without stripping something! :smt002
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Re: oily

#15 Post by phillvr6 » Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:30 pm

Kenif wrote:It's almost not right to hear of someone's first home service without stripping something! :smt002
I did enough of that trying to get the cover off to get at my horn!

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