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Simple Scottoiler question

#1 Post by Aladinsaneuk » Tue May 29, 2007 8:50 am

having seen D-Riders setup for his scottoiler, I immediatly decided to copy it

then I sat back and thought about it - so follow my logic and comment please :)

normally the oiler deposits the oil on to the side of the chain, where it meets the sprocket. Is there any reason why it could not just drop on to the top of the link and remain effective?

reason is my fetid mind looked at the frame mounting and thought about a simple bracket that would hold the oiler above the chain and drop it straight down...

would look cleaner as all the tubing would be hidden from sight....

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#2 Post by Kwackerz » Tue May 29, 2007 9:18 am

I would have it feeding in as a shape a bit like

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so that it drops the oil down to the outer link plates of the chain, as dropping it into the middle does naff all. I cant see a reason why it wouldnt work, apart from the air turbulence keeping the oil off the chain maybe? Dunno, never sat and thought about it that much to be honest (and I dont use a scottoiler)
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#3 Post by D-Rider » Tue May 29, 2007 1:23 pm

I think the idea is that you feed it onto the sprocket and as it rotates it gets flung outwards through the chain - from the inside outwards - lubricating both chain and chain/sprocket interface.
I'm sure I've seen a comment by the Scottoiler people saying you shouldn't drip it on the top of the chain - presumably as soon as it gets to one of the sprockets it gets flung outwards off of the chain. I guess this makes more mess and doesn't do such a good job of lubricating.
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#4 Post by Kwackerz » Tue May 29, 2007 1:31 pm

Aye, would make sense, DR
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#5 Post by Falcopops » Wed May 30, 2007 8:10 am

I've got it dribbling onto the chain at the front sprocket. Can't even tell it's there tubing's all hidden. Others have the same set up. Only drops oil on one side of the chain, but it's supposedly works it's way to the otherside. The nice scottoiler people do make a dual nozzel that will oil both sides, but you would need to put that at the back sprocket. I dont see a clean way of fitting it to the front.

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#6 Post by HisNibbs » Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:31 pm

As D-Rider says the oil should be added on the inside of the chain so cetrifugal force spreads it through. If you pour it on top it will get thrown strait off as soon as the the chain starts to turn round the sprocket.
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#7 Post by Gio » Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:11 pm

I've tried half a dozen different ways and the best is on the bottom of the chain just before it goes round the wheel sprocket as it not only gets better distribution but it also washes of the shit that gets chucked up on the chain from the road from the front cog to the rear.

It also prolongs the life of the chain this way.

For example I changed the sprockets and chain on my BB at 52k, when I sold it with 74+k it was on the same chain and sprockets and it had I think about another 10k miles left in it.

On the CB500 I had the best I got was 17k and the worst was 4k (this was with spray lube)

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#8 Post by D-Rider » Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:48 pm

Gio wrote:I've tried half a dozen different ways and the best is on the bottom of the chain just before it goes round the wheel sprocket
Is that with the special Scottoil anti-gravity device to get it to float up on to the bottom of the chain?
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Ah methinks that the anti gravity device may be unnecessary for one of two possible reasons.
1) Gio has experimented with a riding style that places the lower parts of the bike on the upper side (but has now given that up due to the accompanying pain and distruction)
2) Gio really means on the top of the chain on the bottom run.
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#9 Post by Gio » Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:51 pm

D-Rider wrote:
Gio wrote:I've tried half a dozen different ways and the best is on the bottom of the chain just before it goes round the wheel sprocket
Is that with the special Scottoil anti-gravity device to get it to float up on to the bottom of the chain?
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Ah methinks that the anti gravity device may be unnecessary for one of two possible reasons.
1) Gio has experimented with a riding style that places the lower parts of the bike on the upper side (but has now given that up due to the accompanying pain and distruction)
2) Gio really means on the top of the chain on the bottom run.
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#10 Post by D-Rider » Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:08 am

Oh yes!

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