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A friend of mine used to have a sticker on his helmet which said "if found with a head in do not remove" to stop anyone taking it off and doing more damage in the event of an accident, I dont suppose anyone knows where you can get stuff like this?

Hi Andrewj100,
Don't know about the sticker but was talking to a Bikesafe guy last weekend and they teach FOS (first on scene) or something similar which includes how to remove helmets safetley.

I last saw them given out by a bike magazine.

they do similar here:

http://www.cyberglow.co.uk/products/-Do ... ?prodID=42

A quick search mentioned the Red Cross saying to possibly remove helmets from an unconcious casualty:

http://www.redcross.org.uk/standard.asp ... achefixer=

Sorry to hijack the thread!

If they're not breathing then removing the helmet is the lesser evil.

It would be good to know how to do it comparatively safely.

BikerGran wrote:If they're not breathing then removing the helmet is the lesser evil.

It would be good to know how to do it comparatively safely.

Cut it off?

Maybe something like a dremel (cordless) would be good as you only have to cut the shell

Yes Gio - and we all carry dremels round with us...

But, might be a good idea for the emergency services.

I asked about this at a Bikesafe course - the copper running the course had been trained how to do it. To do it safely takes two or three people, and isn't easy. Unless absolutely necessary (not breathing, something like that), you're best of leaving it on.

He did mention about an inflatable bag that's being trialled, it sits in the top of the helmet and when inflated pushes the lid off without any strain on the neck. Obviously something that would need to be in the helmet before it was put on the rider, though

Firestarter wrote:Yes Gio - and we all carry dremels round with us...

But, might be a good idea for the emergency services.

I asked about this at a Bikesafe course - the copper running the course had been trained how to do it. To do it safely takes two or three people, and isn't easy. Unless absolutely necessary (not breathing, something like that), you're best of leaving it on.

He did mention about an inflatable bag that's being trialled, it sits in the top of the helmet and when inflated pushes the lid off without any strain on the neck. Obviously something that would need to be in the helmet before it was put on the rider, though

I've got 2 dremels a wired one and a wireless one (got the wired one free when I bought the wireless one )

Mmmmm you mentioning a blow up bag has given me an idea, how about a bag thats fitted round the helmet bottom/neck/shoulders area like an inner tube then inflated, it'd provide support, immobilise the neck and push the helmet off if designed properly.

How about we just all agree not to crash.

Kwackerz wrote:How about we just all agree not to crash.

You think thats an option with all the Mr Magoo's around?

funnily enough I do carry a sharp blade and a hollow tube/biro..... not for the faint hearted though!

easiest neck brace to use, that you will find widely available near a crash site, is a twisted newspaper.... it does work. Taking a helmet off does need special training however

Also, and just a thought to all, I wear a full face helmet, that that flips up.... like one of these - http://www.bike-smart.co.uk/acatalog/Sh ... et_38.html

Gio wrote:
I've got 2 dremels a wired one and a wireless one (got the wired one free when I bought the wireless one )

What will they think of next! .... is that wireless one Bluetooth or WiFi ?



(or did you mean "cordless"?)

D-Rider wrote:

Gio wrote:
I've got 2 dremels a wired one and a wireless one (got the wired one free when I bought the wireless one )

What will they think of next! .... is that wireless one Bluetooth or WiFi ?



(or did you mean "cordless"?)

Sweet!

D-Rider wrote:

Gio wrote:
I've got 2 dremels a wired one and a wireless one (got the wired one free when I bought the wireless one )

What will they think of next! .... is that wireless one Bluetooth or WiFi ?



(or did you mean "cordless"?)

Wireless as in radio

Firestarter wrote:I asked about this at a Bikesafe course - the copper running the course had been trained how to do it. To do it safely takes two or three people, and isn't easy. Unless absolutely necessary (not breathing, something like that), you're best of leaving it on.

Many years ago I was involved with the St. John Ambulance and their (I think) now-defunct Motorcycle division.

One thing I was taught was how to take a helmet off a rider. Yes, it's difficult, and it does take at least two people - one to hold the rider's head / neck and one more to carefully pull the helmet off.

As for agreeing not to crash, I like that idea.