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Posted up on my local forum by a member who is one of "the boys in blue".
He thinks this will soon be used to stop meets like Bassetts Pole.


Following the letter of this, it's also the end of rideouts and rider training too as that involves riding in convoy with 2 or more bikes.
Will the police be cancelling Bike-Safe?

Can I no longer ride with my kids and give them advice through the headsets we use?

Madness!

EDIT: just realised that the rider training would be OK as that tends to be before 7pm and only evening rideouts would be a problem.

or at any place to which the public have access

So we couldn't even meet up at a car-park, transport caff, or caff in a a lay-by?

This government is increasingly using the police as a political instrument. It's paranoid about controlling and suppressing anything and everything that carries the slightest whiff of free-thinking or dissent. I really think it's high time we adopted the French model : barricades, strikes, marches etc.

I agree. It soulds like it will be used to stop bike meets and rideouts.

God help me if i follow another bike down the motorway. i will probably get done for car cruising.

To me it seems like a big blow to our freedom.


Is our government secretly communist or something?

i would immagine most bike meets would be safe as they are on private land and unless your breaking the the law rideing to and away from the meet what can you be pulled for. however i can see a problem for matlock as they could class that as a cruise. but if that got banned how much would that cost the town.

Hah so every vehicle on the M25 might get done when it reaches the home counties, they'll have a hell of a time proving it

fastasfcuk wrote:i would immagine most bike meets would be safe as they are on private land and unless your breaking the the law rideing to and away from the meet what can you be pulled for. however i can see a problem for matlock as they could class that as a cruise. but if that got banned how much would that cost the town.

The info in the link says that it covers land to which the public has access which will include privately owned land where meets take place - so I think that bike meets are not safe.
Riding there with your mates - or even a mate - is, by the letter of this, not permitted.

Of course, at present this only applies in North Warwickshire between 7pm and 7am.

There really are some retards in power these days...

So you catch another bike on the road, and tag along behind him for a while.
Plod then pulls you in for riding in a group.
How will you ever prove you don't know each other?
Let's face it, if you do get pulled riding with your mate, you are probably going to claim you don't know each other, so eventually, Plod will get wise to this and just nick any bikes anywhere near each other, sounds like a great little earner for them, with lots of scalps to mark up.
Much easier than nicking crims or separating Millwall and West Ham supporters.

HowardQ wrote:So you catch another bike on the road, and tag along behind him for a while.
Plod then pulls you in for riding in a group.
How will you ever prove you don't know each other?
Let's face it, if you do get pulled riding with your mate, you are probably going to claim you don't know each other, so eventually, Plod will get wise to this and just nick any bikes anywhere near each other, sounds like a great little earner for them, with lots of scalps to mark up.
Much easier than nicking crims or separating Millwall and West Ham supporters.

Ah.... but only between 7pm and 7am in Warwickshire ..... at the moment.

..... though how long before the "Bikers' Curfew" is extended .....


Oh, it's not just bikes - it says motor vehicles (including motorcycles) ..... so cars, buses, vans, lorries, scooters, mobility scooters, trains, trams or any combination thereof are at risk - if the drivers and/or passengers are meeting up.

It's rather worrying that this is Warwickshire police - but to be fair, because of where I work I know the problems that can be caused by so-called 'car cruises' - completely jamming up town centres, racing round and round car parks, foul language, throwing litter all over the streets...

But of course it will be used to stop anything they want to stop, rather as the anti-terrorism laws were used to eject an elderly gent who heckled a politician.

I like the idea of standing outside the local bus station at peak time and asking a copper the nick all the bus drivers as the queue up to get on the stand, and then nicking them again as they park up in lines.

Why should Plod stop here, next stop the local taxi rank with lines of Taxi's parked up and their drivers all stood around talking, so they obviously know each other.

HowardQ wrote:separating Millwall and West Ham supporters.

anyway, like i said, a big blow to our freedom!

To be fair to the government (for a change) this was Warwickshire County Council and police asking a dumb assed judge to impose more daft local legislation. But, yes it is worrying, from small acorns etc.

i just ca'nt see how this would stand up in court, whats the offence when two of you are riding at 7.30 pm. as much as i hate the human rights law the lawyers would have a field day with this one.