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I didn't make it to Scotland on my bike last year has I would of liked.
The chap who said he would go let me down last minute and to be fair he is self employed and work commitments wouldn't allow the ride out.
I have been thinking of selling the oasis green bike and buying a triumph tiger for 2014 and trying to organise a ride up for then.
My funds won't stretch to anything newer than the early bike although I do like the look of the early ones.

the tank holds six and a half gallon and gives good range between fill ups.
The bike has a lovely looking relaxed riding position and with having neck trouble I think this would be more suitable for the long trip.
Has anyone had one of these bikes.
People who are selling them will always sing the bikes praises because they want to sell but I can't imagine there being any issues with these bikes.
Your views?

If you're considering a Tiger you obviously don't give much consideration to a bike's aesthetic appeal.

So, I'd suggest, for that sort of journey, a BMW R1100 or 1150, RS or RT. Comfy, effective fairing, luggage, centre stand.

I have a tiger 1050 & a daytonia 955i.
The ride of the tiger is very good for long trips & decent tank range,It allows decent wind defection untill about 90 depending on size & I would say that the 1050 is a better engine than the 955 but only because the 955 was the previous model.
The diffance between the 2 engines is very small & is mainly the extra little bit of power & torque.
Both engines have good engine braking but not as much as you are used to with the V but good never the less.
The tiger seat height is a tad tall but some bikes have lowing kits fitted & at 6 foot I find I can stop with the balls of both feet on the ground Plus my subspention is set up for pillion riders so is a bit taller then single rider set up on factory settings.
2 up with full luggage I have found the tiger to be well mannered & still has power to over take with out haveing to dance around the gearbox.

The main thing to remember is to get a decent test ride over diffent surfaces & a range of A & B roads.
Hope this helps

bert

bert wrote: The tiger seat height is a tad tall but some bikes have lowing kits fitted & at 6 foot I find I can stop with the balls of both feet on the ground

The main thing to remember is to get a decent test ride over diffent surfaces & a range of A & B roads.
Hope this helps
bert

I am 6ft tall so no worries there
Yes this does help thankyou for your input.
I was also looking at maybe buying a sprint ST

Although I don't think the riding position is much different from the falco.
I will try and get a test ride on both
And yes mart I won't rule out your suggestions but I find the BMW's a little dated.
I really like the look of the triumphs.... more modern and on the ST nice clean lines

blinkey501 wrote: The bike has a lovely looking relaxed riding position and with having neck trouble I think this would be more suitable for the long trip.
Has anyone had one of these bikes.

Nope - but do have neck troubles !

blinkey501 wrote: I was also looking at maybe buying a sprint ST
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Although I don't think the riding position is much different from the falco.

I think you'll find it is.

Unlike the Falco the ST is a sports tourer and the riding position is more upright.

D-Rider wrote:

blinkey501 wrote: The bike has a lovely looking relaxed riding position and with having neck trouble I think this would be more suitable for the long trip.
Has anyone had one of these bikes.

Nope - but do have neck troubles !

blinkey501 wrote: I was also looking at maybe buying a sprint ST
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Although I don't think the riding position is much different from the falco.

I think you'll find it is.

Unlike the Falco the ST is a sports tourer and the riding position is more upright.

Try this site it give you an idea of the riding position

www.cycle-ergo.com

Try a Blackbird and see how that fits.
I am not as comfortable with an upright riding position, as I find I actually get more neck and shoulder pain.
If the Blackbird is a bit of a stretch you can fit VFR800 bars for more comfort.
Just a silly question Jay.
Haven't you tried moving the clip ons over the top on one of your many Falcos and checked what that is like for a long trip?
People like Pete and my old mate Dave, who you met, find it much more comfortable.

HowardQ wrote:Try a Blackbird and see how that fits.
I am not as comfortable with an upright riding position, as I find I actually get more neck and shoulder pain.
If the Blackbird is a bit of a stretch you can fit VFR800 bars for more comfort.
Just a silly question Jay.
Haven't you tried moving the clip ons over the top on one of your many Falcos and checked what that is like for a long trip?
People like Pete and my old mate Dave, who you met, find it much more comfortable.

I have thought about falco oh no ing kerrys old bike for the long haul trips.
Not sure what to do. Pete has talked to me and has assured me that after physio I should be ok.
Not sure what to do tbh

.......... wait until after the physio ?

D-Rider wrote:.......... wait until after the physio ?

Any chance you can blag a ride on a bar over conversion to see if it suits you?
It would be a shame to hack a fairing up if the bars over dont work for you.
Any way you can change footpeg hieght ect ?
Try everything before parting with one of your empire, you know you'll regret it

fatboy wrote:

D-Rider wrote:.......... wait until after the physio ?

Any chance you can blag a ride on a bar over conversion to see if it suits you?

I have ridden pete's bike at last years marches meet and he did the bar over conversion.
I have a fairing that has been damaged and would use that if cutting is required.

fatboy wrote:

D-Rider wrote:.......... wait until after the physio ?

Any chance you can blag a ride on a bar over conversion to see if it suits you?
It would be a shame to hack a fairing up if the bars over dont work for you.
Any way you can change footpeg hieght ect ?
Try everything before parting with one of your empire, you know you'll regret it

You do not need to hack anything Jay, if you are just lifting the bars to try it.
If you just release the ties a bit especially the first one after the bars, the cables/lines should just have enough free play. It's actually a close thing, we just did this on Dave's bike and kept all standard lines OK. Some seem to be a bit tighter and I think Pete changed his brake pipes.
The only other main thing is the front brake master cylinder may have to be moved slightly so it does not catch the fairing on the right hand side, (you may need to mod or change the bracket), everything else should just clear OK, try it like this and see how you go.
If you want to go to higher bars, (Falcuono), the hacksaw will obviously be needed and bar converters.
I'd try the first setting and wait for the physio results.
Got this sort of problem with Dave since his latest Op, (left knee replacement, that should have given him 130 degree movement). He initially only got 90 degrees and lots of pain.
After lots of physio he has now got just over a 100 and less pain, but still got no hope of a standard gear change on his Blade, so I suggested an old type rocking gear change.
He's bought and modded one, (almost all Hondas have the same spline still), and we have it working for him, so will be putting it through the test when the snow goes.
We left the right hand peg adjusted slightly via one of those stepped footpegs, but moved the left peg much further for now and fitted the rocker. Will be odd with the left leg further forwards but it doesn't feel too bad when you sit on it.
Anything to keep him biking, I will be taking it for the MOT next week so see how it goes.
If you need to change the footpeg height, I think you saw Dave's conversion when he had the Falco, it worked well, so things can be done.
It's just a case of making up new alloy plates etc..

Good luck mate, I hope the Physio gets you better soon.

P.S.

The Falco with higher bars is much better than a Tiger!

If you need to chop the blue one about, then I would suggest that you talk sweetly to me and take my vario bars and my Tuono throttle cables.... You would then have a lot of adjustment with the bars over the triple.... That way you would get the position you need.

Personally - and having spoken to you medically I think you can understand why, the physio may well be sufficient

As an arch fettler I reckon that you will like the idea of making a blue tourer!

Bars and cables would cost £150 plus postage

Aladinsaneuk wrote:If you need to chop the blue one about, then I would suggest that you talk sweetly to me and take my vario bars and my Tuono throttle cables.... You would then have a lot of adjustment with the bars over the triple.... That way you would get the position you need.

Personally - and having spoken to you medically I think you can understand why, the physio may well be sufficient

As an arch fettler I reckon that you will like the idea of making a blue tourer!

Bars and cables would cost £150 plus postage

Thanks for the offer pete. The blue / coloured bike has race front brake lines so there is room for adjustment which ever way I go.
I think the thought of faluoning a bike does appeal too. The trip up Scotland won't be until next year, so plenty of time.. May I suggest you bringing the vario bars to marches meet so I can see what I am getting for 130 quid Oh yes and minus postage