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Samray · #1 Post by **Samray** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:40 pm

Motorbikes are registered as push bikes on the tax disc now so you can park on pavements and in cycle parks and racks.

http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/displayN ... eId=144922

Paulh · #2 Post by **Paulh** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:50 pm

Push bikes arent registered at all - so no.

Its common in London to get a ticket if you park a bike on the pavement, unless you are off highway land.

TC · #3 Post by TC » Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:37 pm

As an instructor he should know better, motorcycles are classified as motor bicycles and although bicycle is the classification on the tax disc it is only because they cannot fit "Motor Bicycle" on the disc!

It is still a motor vehicle, and all the rules regarding parking apply, as a professional he (the instructor) should know better.

D-Rider · #4 Post by **D-Rider** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:40 pm

Very interesting .... My son is 16 and rides a scooter. He keeps telling me that it's fine to park on the pavement - I keep telling him it isn't.

He tells me that he has been told by police and traffic wardens that as long as he is parked within 15 feet of the road (I think that's what he said) that it is fine to park on the pavement.

Well, he's failed to convince me - although I don't doubt that is what he believes he has been told by the authorities - but it's interesting to see this debate on here.

Fausto · #5 Post by **Fausto** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:20 am

Pavement parking seems to be a very grey area.
Personally I assume it to be at the least undesirable and quite possibly illegal however there are places in towns where it at least appears to be acceptable.

I almost never park on pavements in this country but often do abroad. Usually having to overcome my natural instinct that it must be wrong. Of course pavements in France etc are usually much wider than our poxy strips of sanctuary for pedestrians.

#6 Post by **Kwackerz** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:01 am

Ive never considered the pavement as a suitable place to park. It's.... a pavement, youre meant to walk on it?!

I can understand how couriers do, theyre short stopping.. similarly pizza hut riders park on the pavements outside the shops. that too kinda goes with the territory. I dont think it's wrong if there's plenty of room, but it's when it becomes inconsiderate that it's wrong.

Samray · #7 Post by **Samray** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:34 am

I think it is always inconsiderate to the white stick brigade.

... and bicycles are no better.

TC · #8 Post by TC » Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:22 pm

D-Rider wrote:Very interesting .... My son is 16 and rides a scooter. He keeps telling me that it's fine to park on the pavement - I keep telling him it isn't.

He tells me that he has been told by police and traffic wardens that as long as he is parked within 15 feet of the road (I think that's what he said) that it is fine to park on the pavement.

You are right and the Police and Traffic Wardens are wrong if that is what your son has been told.

Any parking on a pavement leaves the owner liable for conviction of obstruction, driving elsewhere than on a road or in breach of any local parking restrictions, and you can bet your bottom dollar that if this was contested in court on the grounds that he was told by the Police that it was legal, they would deny it big time.

There is no grey area in this respect either. People do it and get away with it as some areas are more tolerant than others, but at the end of the day the only time someone can legally park on a pavement is if it is a designated parking area for motorcycles.

Gio · #9 Post by **Gio** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:51 pm

Park it on the pavement then remove the numberplate and fit a cover?

My son when in London parks on the pavement, the number plate is up to the wall and its got a nasty alarm system

#10 Post by **Kwackerz** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 8:20 pm

A simple looksee at the tax disc will provide all the information required, or the frame number..or the engine number....

Stick a cover over the whole bike and a copper is perfectly within his rights to call in the bomb squad and blow the bike up..

TC · #11 Post by TC » Sat Jan 05, 2008 9:34 pm

Gio wrote:Park it on the pavement then remove the numberplate and fit a cover?

Don't forget that any authorised person which includes parking attendants can take any reasonable steps to identify a vehicle which includes removing a cover, obtaining engine and chassis number details, looking at the tax disc or authorise immediate removal to a pound, particularly in London, and you are looking at a minimum £130 removal fee + the VAT plus the penalty notice charge.

Can get very inconvenient and costly!

#12 Post by **Kwackerz** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 9:44 pm

Awww... C'mon TC...

Tell 'im they can blow it up too..

Gwaaan.....