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#1 Post by davebms » Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:43 pm

hello all,,, mot,,, a friends bike failed to-day
indicators in rear light cluster NO :smt009 (and the number plate bit small) but that was ok as he had the big one with him
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#2 Post by flatlander » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:01 pm

So what happened with the lights ?
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#3 Post by davebms » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:49 pm

flatlander wrote:So what happened with the lights ?
according to the MOT tester,, need to put indicators in original possition
not legal built in-to led rear cluster,, it passed last year but new rules :smt017
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#4 Post by HowardQ » Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:24 pm

We have a problem if this is applied to cars, especially those VWs with the indicators in the middle of the brake/stop light!
(Then again, there would be a lot of empty roads!)
Stop light goes on as they get to the turn and it ias difficult to see the indicator.
This must be worse than a bike rear brake light setup with one side going orange.
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#5 Post by Aladinsaneuk » Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:38 pm

having a flagrantly illegal tail light cluster myself, i would suggest that the MOT inspector is wrong

http://www.motuk.com/bike/1-5.asp#Menu_Top

I believe that there is a minimum distance- the indicators are meant to be from the tail light is 180mm.which is what makes them illegal.....

(I have a pair of small indicators that get fitted for MOT's)

I would also suggest that if the lens is marked with an "E" then it should be considered legal..... but as my smoked unit is made from an aoriginal mould it does have the "E" so... LOL


Let's face it, you wouldn't go to a nurse to get good advice on a problem with a Falco - you'd choose an Engineer or a mechanic...


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#6 Post by wayno » Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:03 am

The reason they're illegal is that they are too close together, and to the tail light, and probably because the tail light half cuts out when the indicators come which makes it all a blur.

In order for any vehicle to be on the road there are a set of rules (type approval for mass produced, and single vehicle approval for custom one off builds). There are set limits for how high/how far apart/how everything should be, if your bike or car falls outside these parameters it will never be allowed to be registered in the first place. However as your bike is already registered then the MOT centre are there to make sure your vehicle is still roadworthy (both in terms of safety and specification).

I've never liked the built in indicators because I don't think they're clear enough, but I feel your pain with them failing you. I try to avoid MOT centres that fail on loud pipes and small plates as, lets be honest, we all do it. The first thing we'll do is swap it all back when we get home, and if you forget to tighten something up you're making the bike unsafe as a result of working around the MOT system.

My old MOT man has just closed down, he used to be ridiculously thorough (it actually took him 40 minutes to check each bike), however he was realistic and if your pipe was illegal, or plate too small he would turn a blind eye to them. If the problem was slightly more serious but he knew you (wheel bearing on it's way out, or tyre very close to the limit) and trusted you would do it, he would tell you to fix it straight away and still pass it, but nothing unsafe was ever let though. I'm on the hunt for a new place now (me and my mates are taking it in turns to try out different places as our MOT's come up until we find someone as good)
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