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Can you get bolts with shoulders?... the same as the bolts on the Falco fairings. I want a set of black hex for the nose and side fairings.

paddyz1 wrote:Can you get bolts with shoulders?... the same as the bolts on the Falco fairings. I want a set of black hex for the nose and side fairings.

Do you mean dome heads paddy?
And when looking they are set screws has the thread is the full length
Bolts have threads only half way up the length. I hope this makes sense

Jay, he means ones like this that don't compress the fairing when you tighten them up. The shoulder goes through the hole in the plastic.

i have found that a trip to the local cheap car accessory shop is a good source of those - i picked up a bag of them for a fiver a few months ago.... and it was a big bag, and no, i do not have any spares before people ask - they ended up going to a friend overseas!

Thanks Andy . They are what i mean. I want them in black .
Pete. What is the name of the car shop. Hopefully they are national

D-Rider wrote:Jay, he means ones like this that don't compress the fairing when you tighten them up. The shoulder goes through the hole in the plastic.

I realised on my way to work sorry

http://www.pro-bolt.com/index.php/motor ... 00-99.html

i think they are it there

dave

You can make them using the black ally fairing bolts with screw-on collars/spacers.

fairing bolts

collars

It'll cost a bit more than Aladin's chav shop bolts mind! If you want to use the Pro-Bolt bits I can do you a discount on anything they do.

not a national chain - just a local shop - i wandered in and as the trolley dolly on the counter was painting all six finger nails i found them hanging up....
i guess i was just lucky

think i am joking - look up anne boleyn and where she came from.....

About a million years ago I was a steelworks chemist, but having worked in IT for the last half a million years all the metalurgy stuff is forgotten now.
Anyway my thoughts/quesions are all about stainless bolts fitted into alloy as we regularly do with bikes.
Somebody reminded me that sticking a stainless bolt into an alloy fork, wheel hub and/or engine block was a serious no no as the stainless reacts badly with the alloy, and yes it does.
(People like owners of 1960s and 70s Aston Martins found this out in that era. I think in their case there were stainless bolts, through alloy panels into mild steel chassis rails).

On bikes this is made even worse if you then use blue Loctite, which we often tend to do. OOOOOPS.
(Copperslip would be OK).
The mild steel bolts do not have quite the same problem, but the bolts themselves rust which does not look very nice, so we all replace them with stainless when we can.
Does anybody have any more thoughts on this, such as are titanium bolts OK, alhough they bring other issues.
I just hope we don't end up with a situation where the only thing we can do is fit pink anodised bolts!
Then again people like Pro Bolt do black or silver anodised units are these OK?

Just to explain the initial problem :-
If you remove a stainless bolt from alloy it comes out looking just like it has been in a salt bath for some months, I don't think the ones I looked at this week had seen much salt.

I guess that plated bolts avoid the problems - depending on what they are plated with (or other kinds of finish as long as it is durable)

HowardQ wrote:Does anybody have any more thoughts on this, such as are titanium bolts OK, alhough they bring other issues.

I suffered from this when I fitted stainless bolts to my K1200S (awaits abuse), particularly the mudguard bolts. I ended up having to drill a couple of them out after the head sheared off when I tried to remove them.

Anyway, it's called 'galling'. There's a handy article on it here;

http://www.estainlesssteel.com/gallingofstainless.html

Forgot to say, I always use silicone grease (available from plumber's merchants, etc) on fairing fasteners and so on these days.

Thanks for the replies guys
Nooj I will be placing an order for ally bolts with the screw on collars you have suggested. I will also want screen bolts in black too. Will pm you later tonight.

As for corrosion between dissimilar metals i do believe copper-slip is a no no between stainless and anything. I am not 100% sure on this because i use dry moly on my bolts with red locktite. The dry moly i have costs £16 and it is only a standard sized aerosol can.

paddyz1 wrote:Thanks for the replies guys
Nooj I will be placing an order for ally bolts with the screw on collars you have suggested. I will also want screen bolts in black too. Will pm you later tonight.

As for corrosion between dissimilar metals i do believe copper-slip is a no no between stainless and anything. I am not 100% sure on this because i use dry moly on my bolts with red locktite. The dry moly i have costs £16 and it is only a standard sized aerosol can.

You've got me thinking now Paddy and I am not now sure about Copper-slip,
and think the silicone grease mentioned by Keith might be the one to go for.
I'd been using Blue Loctight, advised by a bike shop, but certainly not sure about that anymore.