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Engine/ Fuel Additives

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:21 pm
by Dalemac
Has anyone used any engine oil or fuel additives in the falco?

Is it a good idea, is it needed, etc etc.

Dale

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 1:30 pm
by philgro64
I stuck some of the castrol 2 stage in before I went over to europe last summer as I'd heard the european fuel, particularly in France, was not as good quality. It seemed to do the trick however noticed some pinking from the engine during acceleration towards the end of the trip. Over here I put the 97 octane in and don't have any problems.

Re: Engine/ Fuel Additives

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:56 pm
by MartDude
Dalemac wrote:Has anyone used any engine oil or fuel additives in the falco?

Is it a good idea, is it needed, etc etc.

Dale
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 5:46 pm
by D-Rider
Hmm - that's not so much an additive as a top-end and injector cleaner. You put it through once every so often rather than regularly add it to your fuel.

I'd certainly use that stuff once in a while (particularly on my diesel car that is mainly used for short journeys) but I'd not bother with additional.additives that I had to put in regularly.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:10 pm
by MartDude
D-Rider wrote:Hmm - that's not so much an additive as a top-end and injector cleaner. You put it through once every so often rather than regularly add it to your fuel.

I'd certainly use that stuff once in a while (particularly on my diesel car that is mainly used for short journeys) but I'd not bother with additional.additives that I had to put in regularly.
My mistake - remembered your post incorrectly.

However, I'd think that good quality petrol - not from a supermarket - in our engines wouldn't need regular use of additives

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:43 pm
by Dalemac
I am thinking more along the lines of once every couple of thousand miles to clean up the engine and fuel system.

What about these engine additives which are added to the oil - has anyone tried them before?

Dale

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:55 pm
by D-Rider
I'd not even consider anything in the oil that was not a bike-specific product - it could play havoc with the clutch .... and any decent oil should be fine without additives if changed at the required intervals.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:01 pm
by blinkey501
If you use a good quality engine oil it already has additives added, so no need to spend anymore money....

I am of the opinion if something is not broken then why try and fix it.
If your engine does develop fuelling problems then maybe then it would be worth putting additive through.

A good long run i find is very good for any engine, opening it up shortly cleanes out any crap... :smt003

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:02 pm
by MartDude
D-Rider wrote:I'd not even consider anything in the oil that was not a bike-specific product - it could play havoc with the clutch
Did that, a long time ago. Molyslip isn't good for for clutch performance :smt053

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:58 pm
by Millsy
Personally I'd stay well clear of any additives to fuel or oil.

I stick to BP fuel and Silkolene 15-50 semi and never have a problem.
Supermarket fuel is crap and not worth the savings.Engine performance will drop of to the point that you use more throttle which defeats the savings.

If I put in Motul 10-40 the clutch will slip and the oil pressure light will come on at tickover when really hot. It's a good oil I know,but just doesn't suit my Falco even though I'd swear by it in any other bike.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:04 pm
by mangocrazy
Millsy wrote:If I put in Motul 10-40 the clutch will slip and the oil pressure light will come on at tickover when really hot. It's a good oil I know,but just doesn't suit my Falco even though I'd swear by it in any other bike.
Ah, but have you tried Motul 5100 15w50 semi-synth? Works a treat in my Falco.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:06 pm
by mangocrazy
Not sure if this is what you wre asking about, but I do use fuel stabiliser in vehicles that are left unattended for long periods (over 2-3 months). Works well and means they fire up easily when you come back to them. As long as the battery is up to par, of course...

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:14 pm
by D-Rider
I always use supermarket fuel - chosen by price

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:28 pm
by fatboy
Modern enhanced oil should contain all the addittives needed so adding more could compromise clutch operation ect.
Now lets put the cat amongst the pigeons !
Regardless of where you fuel up you cannot be sure that an Esso garage sells Esso fuel, it is a fuel industry convenience that any retailer uses its nearest supplying refinery ( cuts costs ! ) so everyone is selling generic fuel.
If your bike ( or car ) is inactive/ used sporadically, there is a risk that fuel (mainly petrol ) will leave a varnish like deposit on jets, injectors ect, diesel, if contaminated with water ( tank condensation or shitty fuel ) does produce something like algea.
My mate services petrol and diesel injectors and reckons a fuel system cleaner is as sensible as giving up smoking !

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:30 pm
by Dalemac
So, the hypothesis is this:

No point in engine oil additives.

Fuel additives could be useful every couple of thousand miles.

Dale