No start just click from under the seat

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No start just click from under the seat

#1 Post by keithy » Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:12 pm

Changed my handlebars to tuono ones and the throttle cables to get the correct length finished the job but now not turning over when the button is pushed. Checked the fuses at the front right, checked the ones under the seat all ok. Checked battery 12.35 volts any ideas ????
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#2 Post by D-Rider » Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:21 pm

One click or click, click, click ........ click ?

Is that the battery voltage while under load (which is helpful info) or while it's resting (which is rather meaningless)?

The answers to these questions will suggest different problems.

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#3 Post by keithy » Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:23 pm

Turn the key and get 1 click
12.35 volts just sitting
hope that helps

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#4 Post by keithy » Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:33 pm

V batt is 12 volts ?

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#5 Post by D-Rider » Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:22 pm

OK that's probably not the battery then.

The relay is being energised (hence the click) but the starter motor is not turning. As the battery voltage is holding up you probably have a break (or high resistance) in the power circuit to the starter motor.

Check all connections are clean and tight (including the earth from the starter.

However, my guess is that the starter relay contacts have oxide on them and will not allow a decent current to flow.

The way to check this requires a bit of bravery. Making sure you are in neutral and holding a bid screwdriver with some nicely insulated gloves, carefully use the screwdriver to short between the power terminals of the starter relay. There will be sparks - be prepared for them. I expect this will cause the starter to turn.

If so, you need a new starter relay.
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#6 Post by keithy » Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:59 pm

bike started yesterday no problem i had the airbox off to install new throttle cables co i have knocked something off under the tank ?

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#7 Post by anzacinexile » Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:22 pm

keithy wrote:bike started yesterday no problem i had the airbox off to install new throttle cables co i have knocked something off under the tank ?
Tilt switch springs to mind

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#8 Post by Aladinsaneuk » Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:26 pm

Tip over sensor?


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#9 Post by keithy » Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:43 pm

Aladinsaneuk wrote:Tip over sensor?
How do you test for that ?

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#10 Post by Aladinsaneuk » Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:53 pm

Lift tank, move sensor and see if it starts

I think it is the most likely cause tbh - you dislodged it while fettling


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#11 Post by D-Rider » Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:16 pm

..... so is the starter motor cranking the engine then?

If so, it could be the fall/tip-over sensor - if not, then with the relay being energised you are back to the things I suggested.
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#12 Post by keithy » Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:46 am

THanks for the advice it was the start button its jamming.

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#13 Post by flatlander » Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:04 am

D-Rider wrote:
OR YOU COULD GET AN F-ING DREMEL-TYPE-THING, CUT A SLOT IN IT AND UNDO IT WITH A FLAT-BLADE SCREWDRIVER[/size]
Oops sorry wrong topic lol
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