Sad Story 2 – Falco problems.
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 10:21 pm
Sad Story 2.
Just to make me feel worse, following the recent expensive car problems I have had issues with my normal super reliable Falco!
Just at the same time as I was up to my neck in it with the car problems last October/November the 20 month old £65 Yuasa battery decided to give up the ghost.
I have used a Ring battery conditioner for a few years, (also sold under the Halfords name), and switched it between the ZX9R which has a Datatool S3 alarm, and the Falco which does not. Both wired up just swap a plug over in the middle to link to unit.
Then suddenly the Falco battery went flat quickly, would charge enough to fire up the bike, but was flat again the next day if unplugged it from the charger.
Charger also showing unrecoverable.
I ran the Falco pretty exclusively through last summer but in October ran the Kwack for the last few runs before the 3 to 4 feet snow came in early November. I use cooking unleaded in both bikes but always use super when winter is coming in as this does not go to sludge if the bike is off the road for a while.
Sadly this year the snow came as a complete surprise, (especially for the 200 plus "Ice Road Truckers" stuck in four feet of snow for 3 days on the A57 through our village of South Anston in early November).
So I ended up with both tanks left with normal unleaded.
Snow lasted until after Xmas when I went on holiday to Spain and still there when I came back in January. When weather did finally clear up I used the Kwack, until could sort the battery on the Falco, as all spare funds were used getting the car sorted after Christmas and holidays.
Recently bought a Dynavolt gel battery at £63 with more cranking power than the Yuasa and thought the Falco would now be OK as it has always started first time with a good battery.
Sadly no, I could not get it to start, often did fire up then 5 seconds later spluttered and died. First thought was that the unleaded that had been in since October was probably gunge by now, so could be blocking up injectors and fouling plugs.
I also decided to order one of the Scooter Assasins 100amp relays, after good comments from Andy, to help starting.
Put 6 litres of Super UL in the tank and some injector cleaner and thought I would try again last night whilst I waited for the above to be delivered, and it quickly fired up, for about 15 seconds, then just stopped when I released the throttle and would not start again, with “No Start” on the display.
My head was still thinking plugs and injectors.
(I had only been riding the Kwack recently, which is on flat side carbs, more on that later).
Went back in the house and the wife asked if it was OK and my reply was “No, it ain’t goin’ nowhere!”
Then it suddenly twigged, this statement is not really correct, - no not the double negative bit.
It should have been ”it ain’t going, .......... no whirr!”.
Must be getting senile, but having been riding the Kwack lately, I had become accustomed to silence when turning the ignition on.
Hadn’t noticed that there was no whirring from the fuel pump!
DOH !!
So it may be this that is blocked or just died.
Can only get very limited access to internet at work so not managed to check in any detail, but seem to remember a few RSV units on Fleabay recently, am I right to think they are the same?
Will check with Ultimate Parts when I get home.
Also what sort of job is it?
Seem to remember somebody had some problems re-sealing after a recent replacement.
P.S. Had just typed all this and then Pete phoned and we spent around an hour on the phone, discussing first the car problems then this one etc. etc..
Very many thanks for the advice on the car. I will go down that road, and the reminders of a few different areas to look at on the Falco as I seem to have been a bit blinkered, I will have a lot better look in a few areas this weekend, your advice is very much appreciated.
Just to make me feel worse, following the recent expensive car problems I have had issues with my normal super reliable Falco!
Just at the same time as I was up to my neck in it with the car problems last October/November the 20 month old £65 Yuasa battery decided to give up the ghost.
I have used a Ring battery conditioner for a few years, (also sold under the Halfords name), and switched it between the ZX9R which has a Datatool S3 alarm, and the Falco which does not. Both wired up just swap a plug over in the middle to link to unit.
Then suddenly the Falco battery went flat quickly, would charge enough to fire up the bike, but was flat again the next day if unplugged it from the charger.
Charger also showing unrecoverable.
I ran the Falco pretty exclusively through last summer but in October ran the Kwack for the last few runs before the 3 to 4 feet snow came in early November. I use cooking unleaded in both bikes but always use super when winter is coming in as this does not go to sludge if the bike is off the road for a while.
Sadly this year the snow came as a complete surprise, (especially for the 200 plus "Ice Road Truckers" stuck in four feet of snow for 3 days on the A57 through our village of South Anston in early November).
So I ended up with both tanks left with normal unleaded.
Snow lasted until after Xmas when I went on holiday to Spain and still there when I came back in January. When weather did finally clear up I used the Kwack, until could sort the battery on the Falco, as all spare funds were used getting the car sorted after Christmas and holidays.
Recently bought a Dynavolt gel battery at £63 with more cranking power than the Yuasa and thought the Falco would now be OK as it has always started first time with a good battery.
Sadly no, I could not get it to start, often did fire up then 5 seconds later spluttered and died. First thought was that the unleaded that had been in since October was probably gunge by now, so could be blocking up injectors and fouling plugs.
I also decided to order one of the Scooter Assasins 100amp relays, after good comments from Andy, to help starting.
Put 6 litres of Super UL in the tank and some injector cleaner and thought I would try again last night whilst I waited for the above to be delivered, and it quickly fired up, for about 15 seconds, then just stopped when I released the throttle and would not start again, with “No Start” on the display.
My head was still thinking plugs and injectors.
(I had only been riding the Kwack recently, which is on flat side carbs, more on that later).
Went back in the house and the wife asked if it was OK and my reply was “No, it ain’t goin’ nowhere!”
Then it suddenly twigged, this statement is not really correct, - no not the double negative bit.
It should have been ”it ain’t going, .......... no whirr!”.
Must be getting senile, but having been riding the Kwack lately, I had become accustomed to silence when turning the ignition on.
Hadn’t noticed that there was no whirring from the fuel pump!
DOH !!
So it may be this that is blocked or just died.
Can only get very limited access to internet at work so not managed to check in any detail, but seem to remember a few RSV units on Fleabay recently, am I right to think they are the same?
Will check with Ultimate Parts when I get home.
Also what sort of job is it?
Seem to remember somebody had some problems re-sealing after a recent replacement.
P.S. Had just typed all this and then Pete phoned and we spent around an hour on the phone, discussing first the car problems then this one etc. etc..
Very many thanks for the advice on the car. I will go down that road, and the reminders of a few different areas to look at on the Falco as I seem to have been a bit blinkered, I will have a lot better look in a few areas this weekend, your advice is very much appreciated.
