getting spare keys cut

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herbacious · #1 Post by **herbacious** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:31 pm

Hi all

just wondering - can I get keys cut for the bike at any old place or do I have to do something special?

I think a spare set of keys might be a good idea for this trip (bike only came with one set)

D-Rider · #2 Post by **D-Rider** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:28 pm

One of my keys broke - I bought a blank and had it cut at Coventry Market .... though it did take them 3 goes to get it right .....

Jadaris · #3 Post by **Jadaris** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:00 pm

Having a spare key is soooo handy just incase you do something silly like bend it when taking it out of the fuel tank lock, I think someone with an SV did that, can't think who mind

Dalemac · #4 Post by **Dalemac** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:32 pm

On the falco the plastic shroud falls away from the actual key, and while this doesnt sound too bad, it wont start without the plastic shroud in place. I think there must be a relay in it or something.

D-Rider · #5 Post by **D-Rider** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:40 pm

Dalemac wrote:On the falco the plastic shroud falls away from the actual key, and while this doesnt sound too bad, it wont start without the plastic shroud in place. I think there must be a relay in it or something.

No there absolutely definitely certainly is no immobiliser on a standard Falco.

Mine has an immobiliser but there is no transponder in the key.

furygan man · #6 Post by **furygan man** » Sat Jun 19, 2010 10:15 am

are you going to the key cutters in the village, if so let me know how you get on??

herbacious · #7 Post by **herbacious** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:27 am

got the keys, the guy did them first time and they work so job done - easy

for mr furygan, I went here

furygan man · #8 Post by **furygan man** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:36 am

Thanks for that Herb

herbacious · #9 Post by **herbacious** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:43 am

no worries

Firestarter · #10 Post by **Firestarter** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:15 am

D-Rider wrote:Mine has an immobiliser but there is no transponder in the key.

+1

But I have seen certain aftermarket manufacturers offer their "fob" as a key attachment, so your key is fitted into the fob and becomes a single unit, is this what you've got Dale? My Datatool had that option

Dalemac · #11 Post by **Dalemac** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:11 pm

Dalemac wrote:On the falco the plastic shroud falls away from the actual key, and while this doesnt sound too bad, it wont start without the plastic shroud in place. I think there must be a relay in it or something.

Thats weird, becuase i can promise you that without the plastic shroud on my key, it will not start.

i will get a video for you tomorrow.

Dalemac · #12 Post by **Dalemac** » Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:17 am

My backup key broke today :( Knew I had this issue before!

I've got a Combi Key (tm). Basically as well as the metal part of the key, and the plastic surround, there is something with a part number of PCF79730S - seems to be some sort of chip which interacts with the plastic part of the top yoke that has two wires which run down under the tank with the throttle cables.

Without it, the bike dash will turn on but the fuel relay will not kick in and the starter button doesn't respond.

Pics:

Now i need to find a new surround for the key form somewhere.

Dalemac · #13 Post by **Dalemac** » Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:24 am

P.S I thought the above was the standard key. Looks like it isn't!

Which means i'm now pretty much buggered?

D-Rider · #14 Post by **D-Rider** » Fri Mar 27, 2015 10:34 am

If you can't find out what it is and who makes it (think you might have some of this info) and if spare keys are available, it'll be a case of ripping it out and returning the wiring back to standard.

.... unless you can get a new key cut and glue the key part of the transponder to the new key ... or something.

Dalemac · #15 Post by **Dalemac** » Fri Mar 27, 2015 11:44 am

D-Rider wrote:If you can't find out what it is and who makes it (think you might have some of this info) and if spare keys are available, it'll be a case of ripping it out and returning the wiring back to standard.

.... unless you can get a new key cut and glue the key part of the transponder to the new key ... or something.

Yeah the only thing I know is that it is a Combi Key (tm). But I can't find anything, even in the old receipts, that indicate an immobiliser.

Here are the actual keys:

Easiest solution is to find a key case that is openable so I can replace the actual key and store the transponder.