definitive side stand answer required

[sthomson1]

OK, Ive searched all forums, and cant find any thread that actually states what sidestands fit the Falco bracket.

GSXR .... what model, age ?
VTR .. model age .... i bought a VTR1000 sp1 stand ... completely wrong ... the stand itself is exactly the same length as the Falcos.

also, i noticed the VTR uses a 2 pin switch. Can this be hooked upto the 3 pin falco plug ?

thanks
steve

[Aladinsaneuk]

ok

the switch will fit straight into the loom - follow the falco switch cable up to under the tank, disconnect there and the vtr one will fit strainght in

re the stand itself, you change the leg of the stand - pull the spring off - easier after you have undone the central nut and bolt btw. Now off erup the the vtr leg, and then refit nut, bolt switch etc.

the leg may be the same length, but the foot print is very different, and therefore the angle of lean is more pronounced :)

that explain it all?

[sthomson1]

Hi

Thanks for the quick reply.

The VTR sp1 stand is completely different, even the spring is on the other side (outside).
How does the 2 pin plug, plug into the 3 pin socket ??

Regarding the GSXR stand, what age model can i use ..

cheers

ok

the switch will fit straight into the loom - follow the falco switch cable up to under the tank, disconnect there and the vtr one will fit strainght in

re the stand itself, you change the leg of the stand - pull the spring off - easier after you have undone the central nut and bolt btw. Now off erup the the vtr leg, and then refit nut, bolt switch etc.

the leg may be the same length, but the foot print is very different, and therefore the angle of lean is more pronounced :)

that explain it all?

[Fausto]

Sounds to me as if the SP1 stand is different to a standard VTR one.
I fitted a VTR stand so cannot comment on the SP1 item.

As for the wiring - Mine also came with 2 wire plug that wouldn't fit my Falco loom so I used the Falco switch and made a small mod.

All the info is out there somewhere......

[Aladinsaneuk]

nod, mine was a standard vtr stand....

[D-Rider]

Yeah - I think it's the Firestorm VTR stand (rather than the SP1/SP2) that people tend to fit when they go the Honda route.

I've the Gixer stand but I'm not sure that any of us can really tell you exactly which ones fit and which ones don't.
I'm not even sure if I knew at the time I bought it which Gixer mine came from.
What I can tell you is that most Gixers over the past few years (600, 750, 1000) seem to use the basically the same sidestand. The only one that I have heard of being a problem was (if I remember) an "I-section" stand (can't say I've ever seen one myself).
The stand is longer than the Falco stand and, when extended, sticks out much further - making the whole thing much more stable. The leg is not straight either - there is an angle part way along it.
There are some pictures posted up somewhere (may add some myself later)

BTW: Sticking out further but being the same length is of little benefit as they make the bike lean over too far - and you can get one of those Perkys brackets if that's what you are after.

[Thumper]

Fit the Honda stand onto the falco Bracket sthomson1. Use the falco switch but you will need to drill a small hole for the falco peg on the stand leg to get it into the right position.
My vtr switch had he same number of pines on the loom but although the light worked the engine cut out did not, anyhow fitting the falco switch is easy to do.
I found he Honda leg had just a little to much rake and I modified the stand stop to bring it a little more upright by fitting a small Allen bolt in the slot of the stand bellow the centerer bolt, you could use a small weld if you prefer, everything is working well now and its a much stronger job than the falco stand.

[TreeTops]

Don't know if this helps but I've got a spare replacement sidestand from the ebayer buseywoo - modified to improve the stability of the bike. Never fitted it and don't think I will be (for some reason, my rsvr seems to sit quite nicely).

£35 inc P&P

[Big_AL]

I tried the SP1 leg with the falco bracket and the bike sat too upright for my liking. I tried the sp1 leg with the perkys tilter thingy and it was better but really leaned over 50 degrees, I currently have the VTR Firestorm leg with the falco bracket and sits at a good angle, seems quite stable but the leg seems very flexible and I'm sure it's gradually bending as the lean angle seems to be increasing slightly over time :-( Ideally I think the US sidestand may be my next port of call but they're very pricey. Although it'll cost me more if the bike goes over.

[D-Rider]

but the leg seems very flexible and I'm sure it's gradually bending as the lean angle seems to be increasing slightly over time :-( .

Have you checked the tightness of the sidestand bracket bolts - sometimes they can work loose giving that sort of effect.

[Falcopops]

Have you checked the tightness of the sidestand bracket bolts - sometimes they can work loose giving that sort of effect.

IIRC that can also happen through judicious use of a spanner in some cases

[Samray]

*snigger*

[Fausto]

Loads more info on the archive site.

Here's my own experience....

http://www.jahlis.net/ars/viewtopic.php ... 234de68432

[Nooj]

K series GSXR stands fit with a bit of fettling, 600, 750 and 1000 all used the same stand. I moved the spring retainy bar thing to use the Falco springs and moved the kick-down bar thingy because it sat right under the footpeg and was difficult to get to. I also drilled a hole in it and in the end of the pivot bolt to take the Aprilia sidestand switch. Quite a bit of work in all but it's now as stable as a thing who's entire reputation is based on never falling over.

[Big_AL]

Yep all be bolts are nice and tight thanks, it's just the stand is very thin and very bendy like it's made out of chocolate :-/