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SCOTTOILER

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 6:16 pm
by k1w1boy
... just been trawling threads on chain oilers and the like. I just bought the universal Scottoiler kit and am fishing for tips about putting the thing on. Planning to stick the RMV under the back seat. Very keen to hear how Falconeers have routed and attached the applicator - have ordered the dual applicator too if anyone has that and can offer any advice. Am a bit mechanically challenged so small words and pictures would be particularly useful :smt017 . Have put this out as a new thread since my search on ridersite/falco only had passing references to sticking on a Scottoiler. Will check out the AF1 site presently... if anyone can link me to a suitable thread there or elsewhere that'd be cool. (Cool like my Blue Falco, the coolest colour :smt004 .)

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 6:46 pm
by Big_AL
Have you had a look on the scottoiler website tech section? http://www.scottoiler.com/support_insta ... guides.asp You can select bike specific guides. Let us know how you get on, might invest in one myself if they're not too much hassle to fit.

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 6:52 pm
by FlyingKiwi
Try
One way Here
or
Two ways Here

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 6:59 pm
by k1w1boy
...yeah, Al I have looked at the S.O site fitting guide, but nothing beats first hand experience with the things. Will add to this thread after the dual injector arrives from fleabay and I've had a fiddle (with the bike :smt016 ). Everything I've read about S.O's has been positive, though my mechanic hates them.

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 7:14 pm
by k1w1boy
FlyingKiwi wrote:Try
One way Here
or
Two ways Here
Thanks Kiwi - am wondering if the dual injector thing was a good idea now. In theory - yes, but now that I've seen the bits in the box the single applicator attached to the cotton reel might be the way to go. Slightly sqeamish about lifting the tank to route the vacuum connection so will see if that's doable from the outside first.

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:24 pm
by Aladinsaneuk
lift the tank

trus me nthis - uness youave a small perfectly trained chid with tin hands woring wth you

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:28 pm
by Kwackerz
Aladinsaneuk wrote:lift the tank

trus me nthis - uness youave a small perfectly trained chid with tin hands woring wth you

He could borrow the one currently typing for you.... :smt002

:smt005

Wireless keyboard playing up Alad?

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:30 pm
by Aladinsaneuk
yep - well shaggd

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 10:28 pm
by Nooj
My reservoir sits upright under the tank behind the left side frame spars, the engine heat keeps the oil at a constant viscosity regardless of the weather. It feeds onto the front sprocket with the nozzle/tube thingy secured to the inside of the sprocket cover with a small 'p' clip.

I have also fashioned a cunning coupling in the tube just above the sprocket cover using some spare oiler connectors so I can disconnect the cover and nozzle as one assembly, then bolt it back on again without the need for faffing around trying to line all the bits up again.

I needed a small jubilee clip to keep the vacuum pipe attached to the engine, it kept coming off.

I'll try and stick some pics up if I have time, though I'm not sure I actually have any anyway. Don't hold your breath!

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 11:17 pm
by Falcopops
Thumbs up for the front sprocket delivery. Keeps the rear clear of the tubing, although the dual delivery thingy can't be used here. I attached mine with a clip hels by one of the clutch slave bolts so avoids Nooj's issues, but he may have the RSV chain guard which obviates this method.

I've got the under the rear seat beside the reg/rect unit to try to keep it more upright. Others have mounted it horizontally under the front seat just behind the battery. Nice and neat and a good use of space, but I wanted mine more upright (personal choice).

There is a capped vacuum point on the right side of the throttle bodies that you can use for the oiler, but you'll need to warm up the right angled fitting to get it on, I've not experienced any problems of it falling off.

If you go the front sprocket route, send the dual injector back and get them to send you a loob-tube. It's about a foot long rubber tube that takes about half a litle of oil and fits anywhere, it piggy backs onto the reservoir via a tube and means you don't have to bother about the oil level 'till your next MOT and probably the one after that.

Scott Oilers are the dogs IMO, fit and forget then reap the rewards of extended chain and sprocket life.

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 11:19 pm
by k1w1boy
Nooj wrote:My reservoir sits upright under the tank behind the left side frame spars, the engine heat keeps the oil at a constant viscosity regardless of the weather. It feeds onto the front sprocket with the nozzle/tube thingy secured to the inside of the sprocket cover with a small 'p' clip.

I have also fashioned a cunning coupling in the tube just above the sprocket cover using some spare oiler connectors so I can disconnect the cover and nozzle as one assembly, then bolt it back on again without the need for faffing around trying to line all the bits up again.

I needed a small jubilee clip to keep the vacuum pipe attached to the engine, it kept coming off.

I'll try and stick some pics up if I have time, though I'm not sure I actually have any anyway. Don't hold your breath!
...thought appreciated Nooj :smt001 will prolly go for the simplest, but perhaps not most elegant install

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 11:33 pm
by D-Rider
Falcopops wrote:
There is a capped vacuum point on the right side of the throttle bodies that you can use for the oiler, but you'll need to warm up the right angled fitting to get it on, I've not experienced any problems of it falling off.
Oh yes ..... it was a bit of a bugger to get it on there - but once on it's not moved.

I've gone for the oil delivery onto the rear sprocket - I know that Scottoiler talk about the front sprocket delivery on their website but I think it basically drips the oil onto the top of the chain (unless I've misunderstood). Scottoiler also tell you not to drip the oil on the chain but deliver it straight onto the rear sprocket where it is gradually flung outward from the sprocket and through the chain links. Just sounds a better way ... but then I've never tried the other way so don't really know the difference.

BTW I think my pipework and routing is pretty neat and unobtrusive - but I did have to make up a bracket to do it well.

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:55 am
by k1w1boy
...thanks for all the helpful feedback everyone. Will post again about it when I've got the thing on. This 'Scottoiler only' thread will no doubt come in handy for another newbie further down the track.

Ooh! I found some photos!

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:29 am
by Nooj
Oiler position, top left behind frame. The oil tube runs behind the frame spar following the clutch line down to the sprocket cover.

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The oiler nozzle is attached with a 'P' clip inside the sprocket cover with the small button head screw you can see. It feeds onto the side of the sprocket so the oil is flung outwards as it turns, just like it would be on a rear sprocket. The twist lock fitting in the tube above the sprocket cover is a Scottoiler part.

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The vacuum feed is circled in yellow. It's on the right side of the throttle bodies.

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This is the routing of the oiler's breather hose. Yes, I have a Renegade Airkit :smt003

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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:58 pm
by k1w1boy
...great pics Nooj - very elegant solution. Will still wait for my dual injector before I decide how I'm gonna do this. Earlier I said I'd be squeamish about lifting the tank, assuming it'd involve fuel couplings and such. Never new the tank was designed to be propped up without unplugging anything- very cool! :smt004 Saw a bit about it on Ken's geocities site, tho there's prolly a thread here or at AF1 about it.