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engine oil. Think I'm being thick.

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:09 pm
by squadron Nero
Needed some ATF today so nipped into halfords (I know, but I was pushed for time and it was comvienent) anyway while in there thought I'd pick up some engine oil for the Falco as she was looking a little low at the weekend. Choice of either Castrol or Halfords own. Read the labels on both but neither said whether they were mineral, semi or fully synthetic. Was only a tenner so I bought the Castrol power1 4T 10w40.

At the risk of sounding like a right pleb, I thought I'd ask. Am I missing something here?

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:21 pm
by flatlander
I'm sure there was either someone on here who either worked for castrol or had a good exchange of emails with them about oil not sure if it would answer your question and at the risk of sounding like DR ... Search function :smt017

Mind you if your clutch starts slipping you may have answered your own question :smt002

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 10:40 pm
by Dalemac
Castrol power1 4T 10w40 is semi-synthetic.

Castrol power1 Racing 4T 10w40 is fully-synthetic.

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:40 am
by blinkey501
Your oil seemed a little low?
You did check the oil when the motor was warm?
On another note, we have a discount scheme with Opie oils who deliver to your :smt003

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 9:32 am
by squadron Nero
Thanks 👍

Yeah I checked it when it was upto temp. It's about a quarter up the pipe at cold but when I start it dissappears to none for a few minutes then it comes back to about halfway up once upto temp.

I do know about the opie deal. I've used them before and found them to be very good. It was just an impulse purchase as it reminded me as I walked past the motorcycle oil in the shop.

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:25 pm
by HisNibbs
Half way up is not low, I think that should be considered the high mark. Had that advice from Griff I recollect vaguely...Sposed to be 10:50 BTW but for winter use I don't think that'll matter much.[/i]

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:41 pm
by wayno
It's a dry sump so surely the amount of oil in the tank isn't as critical as a wet sump that needs to pull it out of the bottom up to the top (there will obviously be a slight temperature increase with less oil).

while we're on the subject of oil, I need to change mine, just how likely is my plug to strip the thread, and should I just helicoil it as a matter of course when I do it anyway?

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 2:36 pm
by Firestarter
wayno wrote:while we're on the subject of oil, I need to change mine, just how likely is my plug to strip the thread, and should I just helicoil it as a matter of course when I do it anyway?
I've done mine twice (along with others having done so for servicing, so probably 6 times in all). not stripped mine (yet). Probably don't need to helicoil it as a matter of course, only if it does strip (or starts leaking)? :smt017

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:12 pm
by D-Rider
HisNibbs wrote:Half way up is not low, I think that should be considered the high mark. Had that advice from Griff I recollect vaguely...Sposed to be 10:50 BTW but for winter use I don't think that'll matter much.[/i]
I think that's 15W50 though Aprilia has sanctioned 10W40 if you experience clutch slip that can't be cured by the various other methods.

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:41 pm
by flatlander
15/40 here dismt soñé of this change dependinf on the trae ?

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:47 am
by Aladinsaneuk
i routinely use 10/40 semi - i prefer motul

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 6:10 am
by HisNibbs
Yep Andy, 15 - 50 it is .Must have done nearly 20 oil changes and still can't remember correctly :smt009

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 6:35 am
by blinkey501
When I ring Opie I always ask whats the cheapest 10/40-15/50 semi synthetic they have.
All oils have to reach specifications.
Usually it seems to be a preferred manufacturer.

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 7:58 pm
by squadron Nero
I know it's supposed to be 15w50 and that's fine if you live in southern Italy. But our colder climate and because my falco runs a few degrees cooler than others I think 10w40 will be better for my engine. Although I haven't experienced any clutch slip it's also a bit of prevention rather than cure.

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 8:40 pm
by squadron Nero
In other news, I've finally got round to buying a set of AP rearsets. Mainly because Lewis from AP phoned me to tell me they were the last set left on the shelves. Just gotta wait a week to get them fitted to the bike.