Putting on raised bars

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Putting on raised bars

#1 Post by wayno » Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:20 am

I managed to pick myself up a chopped fairing off ebay so I'm going to be putting a set of raised bars on the falco (I couldn't bring myself to chop up a perfectly good fairing so my existing one will be going into safe storage in the garage).

Going the risers and renthal bars route, with extended brake and clutch lines, plus I'll be getting some tuono throttle cables just in case I run out of length on them too (hopefuly I won't need them).

If anyone has done this and has some warnings about potential problems feel free to let me know.
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#2 Post by HisNibbs » Wed Sep 03, 2014 1:44 pm

i think that is a wheelie wheelie bad idea :smt018
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#3 Post by big alan » Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:34 pm

I cut the old lines off as it was turning in to an arse to get them off and ran the standard throttle cable behind the headstock / my new yolk does not allow the tank to come up on the hinge so I have to unbolt it at the back to get under the tank . I love it well happy [/img]

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#4 Post by Twintin » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:53 pm

Pics?

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#5 Post by wayno » Sun Sep 07, 2014 8:00 pm

big alan wrote:I cut the old lines off as it was turning in to an arse to get them off and ran the standard throttle cable behind the headstock / my new yolk does not allow the tank to come up on the hinge so I have to unbolt it at the back to get under the tank . I love it well happy [/img]
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#6 Post by GregD-UK » Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:11 pm

Hi all.

I understand what you are saying about not being able to raise the tank! I undone the rear mounting bolt and just twisted the front to miss my 2006 tuono factory bar conversion :smt007

Got my aprilia side pannier rack on and bespoke rear rack done. Tuono throttle cables and asv levers with new 4 pot calipers. Oh, did l mention OHLINS front suspension as well :smt008

Shall l post a pic up hmmmm...

Apologies for high-jacking your thread. Thought it was apt l just finished it 30mins ago....
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#7 Post by wayno » Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:32 pm

Apt and well worth some piccies
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#8 Post by Falcopops » Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:45 pm

A warning bell just went off in my head when I read Greg's post.

I've got a second tank on my bike at the moment as there was petrol escaping from the front mounting area where there is a concentration of stress. You may noticce I didn't say 'leaking' as there was merely evidence of petrol from staining of the aluminium and bubbling paint and I didn't see any petrol dripping.

So my point is, be careful with twisting and pulling this mounting point as it may cause a leak.

This has made me think that there may be an issue with tanks expanding and putting pressure on these points if they are bolted down tight or if pinned the tank has already grown enough to put pressure on the mountings.

Just a thought for your consideration.

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#9 Post by GregD-UK » Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:20 pm

Hi all.

Thanks Falcopops, all l did was remove rear bolt push back down a tad and twist whole tank about 10mm at front. Was careful not to twist too hard. Just been for a quick run and check, feels abit weird sitting up more, more comfortable, less stress on back and arms/wrists. The ohlins has transformed riding, like being in a rolls royce :)

Pictures to follow, probably from thursday when a few of us are galavanting around scotland for five days...
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#10 Post by Nooj » Wed Sep 10, 2014 3:47 pm

Top tips I found when doing a bar conversion:

Gen2 Tuono throttle cables are longer than the Gen1 ones and fit a Falcuono better.

Get a Tuono top yoke, it's far easier than making angled spacers to account for the Falco's sloped yoke.

Wiring can be made to fit fine with a bit of re-routing.

Custom length hydraulic lines save a lot of faffing. Cheap enough with our HEL discount, existing Falco ones can be sold on to get some money back.

Rebound damping can be fiddly (but not impossible) to adjust on the Marzocci forks with bars fitted.

All you'll be able to see in your stock mirrors while riding will be your knuckles.

Lowering the yokes another ring or two will improve front end feel now you're sitting upright. Fit a steering damper if you like, but you'll probably not need one. You won't know for sure until it's too late though :-p

Think that pretty much covers it.
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#11 Post by big alan » Wed Sep 10, 2014 8:15 pm

I find pics wont work , the yoke is a cnc one of the blokes on ebay they are very nice

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#12 Post by Falcorob » Wed Sep 10, 2014 8:18 pm

Or get a CNC yoke, Renthal bars, Tuono brake lines, Futura throttle cables, standard wiring, and some serious attitude.

And enjoy. :smt003Image[/img]
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#13 Post by wayno » Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:14 pm

Thanks for all the advice. Once I get back from le man's next weekend I'll get the yoke, hoses and cables ordered up ready for some autumnal fettling.
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#14 Post by wayno » Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:24 am

Tuono top yoke should be arriving this morning. got a couple of quotes for the top fairing respray, just need to get some new hoses, bars and grips on order now and I'm good to go.
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#15 Post by jonnie_r » Thu Oct 16, 2014 1:43 pm

I notice Andy has been quiet on this thread, has he had a heart attack at yet another Falco undergoing Tuonisation?

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