Gorilla vs Falco
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Gorilla vs Falco
Brittany-Ferries gorilla with ratchet straps VS Aprilia Falco
Sadly Falco loses - it must take a lot to bend 15mm of steel rod but they did it.
Eventually the weld failed - after I had gone up to the lounge but before we'd left Le Havre.
Stupid thing is I watched him strap it down but didn't see the suspension compressing as he wound it down - thought it seemed odd but being British said nothing as there were three other gorillas watching him do it.
So new stand needed urgently, plus new cans (one of them has a nice dent in it) plus the left clip-on is bent - all courtesy of Brittany-Ferries.
Pics to follow and a viscous social media campaign if they try "the stand was clearly at fault"
Grrrrr
Sadly Falco loses - it must take a lot to bend 15mm of steel rod but they did it.
Eventually the weld failed - after I had gone up to the lounge but before we'd left Le Havre.
Stupid thing is I watched him strap it down but didn't see the suspension compressing as he wound it down - thought it seemed odd but being British said nothing as there were three other gorillas watching him do it.
So new stand needed urgently, plus new cans (one of them has a nice dent in it) plus the left clip-on is bent - all courtesy of Brittany-Ferries.
Pics to follow and a viscous social media campaign if they try "the stand was clearly at fault"
Grrrrr
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i believe that something similar has happened before - and that case ended in court - or close to it....
was it a standard side stand?
what exhaust is it?
present them with the bill....
was it a standard side stand?
what exhaust is it?
present them with the bill....
Let's face it, you wouldn't go to a nurse to get good advice on a problem with a Falco - you'd choose an Engineer or a mechanic...
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When I sailed to Santander in 2011 they strapped the bike so hard it went forward off the stand-as I realised when they released the strap and my VFR rolled forward into a water cistern. I managed to catch it but the front quarter fairing was damaged. And it didn't end there. Couldn't restart the bike in Jaca, due to the underseat alarm sensor being broken and luckily waiting in the battery tray for me to repair it. Good luck mate. 

All of these incidents demonstrate that their system for securing bikes isn't fit for purpose.
No sidestand is designed to have that sort of load on it so strapping it down like that is not appropriate.
They need to install a proper clamping system that doesn't load parts of bikes that are not meant to be overloaded.
Maybe there needs to be some campaign to approach the ferry companies to suggest that they protect themselves from claims for this damage by installing a proper fixing system - pointing out that if they do so and advertise it, then they will benefit by a lot more trade coming their way.
No sidestand is designed to have that sort of load on it so strapping it down like that is not appropriate.
They need to install a proper clamping system that doesn't load parts of bikes that are not meant to be overloaded.
Maybe there needs to be some campaign to approach the ferry companies to suggest that they protect themselves from claims for this damage by installing a proper fixing system - pointing out that if they do so and advertise it, then they will benefit by a lot more trade coming their way.
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I 'm not sure if it's an OE stand - I imagine not as it's never been close to blowing over. Maybe someone can tell me when I put the pics up.
They are Scorpion S/S cans.
It would help if they put the ratchet on the opposite side of the stand that way the pressure is absorbed by the suspension rather than focused on the stand but yes - they should have a better system. My seat is also knackered from 7 crossings. Imagine if this had been a fancy BMW - they'd be liable for £1000s.
They are Scorpion S/S cans.
It would help if they put the ratchet on the opposite side of the stand that way the pressure is absorbed by the suspension rather than focused on the stand but yes - they should have a better system. My seat is also knackered from 7 crossings. Imagine if this had been a fancy BMW - they'd be liable for £1000s.
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They used to be meant to use airbags but tgemomen never had enough we always used to put gloves and extra bits of clothing under the ratchet strap to stop it being fully compressed and to protect the paint
I say used to because now and for quite a while I have used the tunnel and its great
I say used to because now and for quite a while I have used the tunnel and its great
For the avoidance of doubt and for the benefit of my wife, not everything I may say here will be absolutely true I may on ocassion embellish a little for effect.
That said when it comes to motorbikes, I like to ride side saddle with a nice frock
That said when it comes to motorbikes, I like to ride side saddle with a nice frock
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The Pics
So what stand is this?





Re: The Pics
..... a broken one !KitchenSync wrote:So what stand is this?
(looks as though it was a standard one)
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that's definitely a standard falco stand.
I'd have thought something like this would be much better than ratchet strapping down...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_1NkHRn4rA
I'd have thought something like this would be much better than ratchet strapping down...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_1NkHRn4rA
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Clearly doesn't work - he keeps having to buy another bike!Dalemac wrote:that's definitely a standard falco stand.
I'd have thought something like this would be much better than ratchet strapping down...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_1NkHRn4rA
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