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How to install a Gabro Chip:
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:35 pm
by stoney
Turns out that it's a job that a complete numpty like me can do, so I decided to make a quick visual guide.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUd7GnjhC7s
If I'd seen this I'd have felt more confident before doing the job, so if there are any other mechanical 'tards out there, I hope this might help..

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:33 pm
by DavShill
Thanks Stoney. Nice vid. I think I need to invest in a Gabro chip. It's a while since I spent any money on my baby.
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:17 pm
by Aladinsaneuk
Cheers for the vid
I will move the thread into the Aprilia tech section in a few days - will let people comment here first
Personally I think the Gabro chip is the best solution chip wise
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:40 pm
by fatboy
Another amusing vid from Stoney...
BUT it must be said YOU SHOULD NOT handle an eprom by its pins with your bare hands, the grease and acids present on your dabs will cause problems in the future.
Im sure D_Rider can expand on this, I know only what I have read, He knows shit loads of stuff
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:29 pm
by DavShill
I know Andy will shout at me but.................... and I think I've asked this before.............................
..................................... can someone post up Gabro's contact details please.
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:14 am
by Viking
fatboy wrote:BUT it must be said YOU SHOULD NOT handle an eprom by its pins with your bare hands, the grease and acids present on your dabs will cause problems in the future.
Not to forget static electricity, either. That can kill ECUs and chips faster than you can blink.
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 8:58 am
by D-Rider
Not watched the vid yet (sorry) but yes, keep your fingers off the pins. Biggest problem is static that can kill the internals. Maybe not straight away but it can weaken them and they fail later.
Note: I only say "can" not "will" but whatever, keep fingers away from pins - and discharge yourself first
(no Squid - not like that)
I'll try to watch the vid later.

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 9:05 am
by skye2skye
Heard alot and read alot about this gabro chip . who do i get hold of to get one and what sort of price
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 9:54 am
by D-Rider
DavShill wrote:
..................................... can someone post up Gabro's contact details please.
skye2skye wrote:Heard alot and read alot about this gabro chip . who do i get hold of to get one and what sort of price
Email: Gabriele Malara <
malarone@gmail.com>
Gabro seems to vary his price - mine was €100, I've heard that others got theirs for €75.
Maybe maps for different configs come in at different prices.
Tell him what you want and he'll do you a chip to suit.
He lives in Rome BTW -
so Pete can't have one as he wants to quit the EU

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:50 am
by skye2skye
Thanks
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:27 pm
by stoney
So let me get this straight.. You're saying I
SHOULDN'T have nestled the chip onto my scalp in my hair to convince the kids I'm Robocop in my spare time?

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:48 pm
by D-Rider
stoney wrote:So let me get this straight.. You're saying I
SHOULDN'T have nestled the chip onto my scalp in my hair to convince the kids I'm Robocop in my spare time?

Yes that's fine - use a whole bag of chips if the chip shop can spare them.
You could even stick them up your nose for that Fish Called Wanda effect

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:17 am
by Viking
D-Rider wrote:Not watched the vid yet (sorry) but yes, keep your fingers off the pins. Biggest problem is static that can kill the internals. Maybe not straight away but it can weaken them and they fail later.
Note: I only say "can" not "will" but whatever, keep fingers away from pins - and discharge yourself first
Many years ago I worked as a repair tech in a computer shop. If we ever got an intermittently failing component (usually a system board that would work when it was cold and then randomly play up when it got warm) we would put it in the work bench, make a few "scuff our shoes into the carpet" circuits of the workshop and then touch the component.
We managed a 100% kill rate, and sparks up to 6" long. I think we once estimated we were generating 40,000 volts (at some stupidly tiny amount of micro-amps current though).
TL;DR - Yes, static
will kill electronics. Been there, done that.
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:15 am
by DavShill
Thanks Andy.
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 5:41 pm
by fatboy
I installed my gabro wearing vinyl gloves, and touched the pins because I dropped the bloody thing and bent a few pins, so will the gloves be an effective anti static barrier ?