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What forks?

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:44 pm
by zoidberg
Fit straight in the Falco?

I would like some radial brakes at some point.

Will the later RSVR forks drop in?

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:53 pm
by D-Rider
Take the complete set of yokes brakes and wheel (with the forks of course) to make life easy.

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:02 pm
by zoidberg
Hhmmmm I can see this getting expensive. :smt005

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:38 pm
by HowardQ
Too expensive, it ain't worth the hassle.
Plus you end up with different wheels back and front.
It would probably cost more than the value of the bike and the brakes would not be that much better.
The Brembo Gold Line callipers and Showa forks are the same as the early RSV and are pretty good for road use if working well.
If you want to spend some money, (less than above), go for some Oz wheels, they look great and really do make a difference

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:01 pm
by Tonyunn
Apart from cosmetics I can't see why you would change.
When I got my Falco about 18 months ago I was a bit disappointed with the front end braking it just didn't feel quite right, anyway just replaced the front pads with Brembo Sintered and it stops on a dot if required, one finger braking and with lots of feel.

I would try the pads first better to spend £70 instead of £500 looking for improvements.

Re: What forks?

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:53 pm
by blinkey501
zoidberg wrote:Fit straight in the Falco?

I would like some radial brakes at some point.

Will the later RSVR forks drop in?
I am not really sure what has been done to your falco. If it is standard and you want to improve the bike there is "Better" things to spend your money on.
The front end set up apart from maybe a fork service should'nt be on your list of priorities.
Sidestand is no1. You don't want your pride and joy eating the gravel.
Clutch jet is maybe no2. It helps to engage neutral a lot easier.
No 3 is a 15 tooth front sprocket. It makes the bike more manageable at slow speed.
No 4 OZ wheels. If you like to ride aggressively, and like to change direction quite quickly, like when track riding. Or you like to willy wave!!!!!
190/55/17 Rear tyre. This gives more contact with the road when leaning in.
Rear shock change. Either ohlins or with spring sach is a favourite. Although there are alternatives that are a lot better than standard.
The standard front forks are more than capable of making the riding quite pleasurable over ohlins and a lot cheaper. As I said a service maybe beneficial.

Re: What forks?

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:56 pm
by blinkey501
zoidberg wrote:Fit straight in the Falco?

I would like some radial brakes at some point.

Will the later RSVR forks drop in?
I am not really sure what has been done to your falco. If it is standard and you want to improve the bike there is "Better" things to spend your money on.
The front end set up apart from maybe a fork service should'nt be on your list of priorities.
Sidestand is no1. You don't want your pride and joy eating the gravel.
Clutch jet is maybe no2. It helps to engage neutral a lot easier.
No 3 is a 15 tooth front sprocket. It makes the bike more manageable at slow speed.
No 4 OZ wheels. If you like to ride aggressively, and like to change direction quite quickly, like when track riding. Or other than that if you like to willy wave!!!!!
190/55/17 Rear tyre. This gives more contact with the road when leaning in.
Rear shock change. Either ohlins or with spring sach is a favourite. Although there are alternatives that are a lot better than standard.

Re: What forks?

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:00 pm
by blinkey501
zoidberg wrote:Fit straight in the Falco?

I would like some radial brakes at some point.

Will the later RSVR forks drop in?
I am not really sure what has been done to your falco. If it is standard and you want to improve the bike there is "Better" things to spend your money on.
The front end set up apart from maybe a fork service should'nt be on your list of priorities.
Sidestand is no1. You don't want your pride and joy eating the gravel.
Clutch jet is maybe no2. It helps to engage neutral a lot easier.
No 3 is a 15 tooth front sprocket. It makes the bike more manageable at slow speed.
No 4 OZ wheels. If you like to ride aggressively, and like to change direction quite quickly, like when track riding. Or other than that if you like to willy wave!!!!!
190/55/17 Rear tyre. This gives more contact with the road when leaning in.
Rear shock change. Either ohlins or with spring sach is a favourite. Although there are alternatives that are a lot better than standard.
These to me are on your list of priorities, although the tyre size is personal choice.
These modifications will make life more pleasurable with the falco :smt003

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:05 pm
by Firestarter
Flipping heck blinkey, you must have felt quite strongly about all that!

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:06 pm
by Aladinsaneuk
It's his dementia

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:16 pm
by fatboy
Say it again Blinkey ?

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:29 pm
by HowardQ
Think he is on the whiskey already, see post in general chat!

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:36 pm
by zoidberg
i was just browsing eBay and wondering. I like the look of radial calipers is all.

i need to give it a good going over next weekend to see what jobs need doing before i spend money on 'bling'


15t sprocket eh, what size is std?

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:29 pm
by D-Rider
zoidberg wrote:i was just browsing eBay and wondering. I like the look of radial calipers is all.

i need to give it a good going over next weekend to see what jobs need doing before i spend money on 'bling'
If you want better stoppers, you can go a long way by fitting 4-pad callipers from a later first gen Mille - and more feel by fitting a radial master cylinder. That's the setup I've got.
zoidberg wrote:
15t sprocket eh, what size is std?
16t

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:33 pm
by Falcopops
I got a set of non-radial ohlins from a mille years ago and if I had the chance again I wouldn't bother. They are good and better than the originals, but for much less money you can get ohlins internals (or others) put in your original shocks that will make them just about as good.

Then you can spend the money you save on an ohlins rear shock.

On the braking front I understand (but haven't done it myself) that changing to the mille 4 pad calipers improve things as does using a radial master. - Just saw that Andy has already confirmed that.