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Cathcart · #1 Post by **Cathcart** » Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:01 pm

Fitting my steering damper, easy job, no problems...
Fitting front Braided hose, easy job, no problems...
Fitting clutch Slave, should be easy job... Bloody problem! When some monkey replaced it he somehow chewed up the bolt that hides away a bit on the clutch Slave. I can't get a good bite of it with my tools. Gave up for today now... The other two were really tight but the third one is chewed up.
Can't think of what to do... Suggestions...?

MartDude · #2 Post by **MartDude** » Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:14 pm

Allen (hex recess) bolt? Try hammering in a slightly oversized hex bit, or torx bit. If you have to resort to an Easy-out, drill the pilot hole with a left-hand drill bit; sometimes, if you're lucky, that can loosen the bolt enough for it to be unscrewed.

Cathcart · #3 Post by **Cathcart** » Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:33 pm

Ye that's the one. I'll try the hammering tomorrow.
I don't have an extractor, guess I may need to buy one... Huff... Worst comes to worst I'll have to drill and tap. Here's hoping it doesn't come to that.

Appreciated.

back_marker · #4 Post by **back_marker** » Sat Apr 20, 2013 4:48 pm

Not sure if this is stating the obvious to you or not (amazing how many people don't think of it), make sure the other two bolts are in and reasonably tight to take the tension off the offending one.

If all else fails it is usually possible to use a large drill bit (probably around 6-8mm) to remove the head of the bolt, leaving just the shaft inside. You can then remove the slave and, assuming that the bolt is not corroded or bottomed out, the shaft should be easy enough to remove with pliers or even fingers as all tension has been removed from it.

paddyz1 · #5 Post by **paddyz1** » Sat Apr 20, 2013 4:53 pm

Tighten the others up first then try the one that is fucked (this is because there will be more pressure on the last bolt). Give t a good hit with and decent flat drift. If still not moving try to nip it up as this sometimes frees a stud.

paddyz1 · #6 Post by **paddyz1** » Sat Apr 20, 2013 4:56 pm

You beat me to it as i was writing on my phone lol

paddyz1 · #7 Post by **paddyz1** » Sat Apr 20, 2013 5:02 pm

You beat me to it as i was writing on my phone lol

MartDude · #8 Post by **MartDude** » Sat Apr 20, 2013 5:38 pm

back_marker wrote:Not sure if this is stating the obvious to you or not (amazing how many people don't think of it), make sure the other two bolts are in and reasonably tight to take the tension off the offending one.

danthewhippet · #9 Post by **danthewhippet** » Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:38 pm

all of the above, but i'd give it a good dose of WD tonight as well, then it's got all night to soak in, might make life easier tomorrow.

Cathcart · #10 Post by **Cathcart** » Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:56 pm

Ah!!! The obvious surpassed me! Hahaha. That'll be the plan for tomorrow then, tighten up the other two and try hammering a slightly larger Allen in.
Failing this it'll probably be the drill the head off and pliers etc... Then the easy out as I'd need to buy that.
Good plan lads!

fatboy · #11 Post by **fatboy** » Sat Apr 20, 2013 7:25 pm

May be a good idea to use a bit of copper grease on the bolts as you re install !

MartDude · #12 Post by **MartDude** » Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:18 am

If you're going to do the oversize allen key/bit thing, it might be an idea to use Imperial, rather than metric - might fit in easier than the next-size-up metric.

E.g. if it should be a 4 mm key, use a 3/16" - 4.8 mm; if it should be a 5 mm. key, use a 7/32" - 5.6 mm.

It'll be easier to hammer in a hex bit than an allen key.

Cathcart · #13 Post by **Cathcart** » Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:28 am

Ye, it's the hex bit I'm going to hammer in. I don't think I've any imperial stuff at all....

Shetland Woody · #14 Post by **Shetland Woody** » Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:53 am

Be carefull with the hex bit. I've snapped them off in an Allen head before and there as hard as. I couldn't get the hex bit drilled out after it snapped off. Turns it into a bigger nightmare. If its twisting the hex bit and not turning out the bolt, probably best to try something else like a larger Allen bit.

control_67 · #15 Post by **control_67** » Sun Apr 21, 2013 8:20 pm

back_marker wrote: If all else fails it is usually possible to use a large drill bit (probably around 6-8mm) to remove the head of the bolt, leaving just the shaft inside. You can then remove the slave and, assuming that the bolt is not corroded or bottomed out, the shaft should be easy enough to remove with pliers or even fingers as all tension has been removed from it.

This is what I did on mine, the old bolt came out with just fingers once the slave was off. The exposed length should be quite long too as it goes through the slave and spacer before it screws into the engine