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Short oil filter

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:15 pm
by wayofthedarkhand
I need one of these. I'm told halfords stock them. What do I need to ask for?

I'm presuming if I waltz in and start talking about an Aprilia Falco they'll think I've gone mad.

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:26 pm
by Tonyunn
Aprilia 2004 SL 1000 Falco K&N Performance Oil Filter KN-152

I got mine from demontweeks direct via e-bay for £10.52 worked a treat.

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:44 pm
by wayofthedarkhand
Well I'm told halfords sell them for £6 so that seems like the best option.

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 3:00 pm
by Tonyunn
The KN-152 is the bit that has to match, that is the K&N part number, if you get it for £6 that's really good.

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:26 pm
by wayofthedarkhand
Champion x312 £7.49 (or similar).

Now I just need oil (used to buy HG's 10/40w for £20) and an oil drain tank (through my old out).

What internal changes to the engine were there between models that allow the newer models to run fully synthetic?

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:30 pm
by falcomunky
Personally, I'd go with 15/50 semi (unless you've been using 10/40 without any problems: Caused clutch slip for me) Silkolene Fuchs.
As far as I'm aware there were no internal engine changes other than the oil filter case getting longer.

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:32 pm
by wayofthedarkhand
falcomunky wrote:Personally, I'd go with 15/50 semi (unless you've been using 10/40 without any problems: Caused clutch slip for me) Silkolene Fuchs.
I saw a memo from Aprilia to there dealers in was it Germany/Sweden saying that 10/40 should be used in colder climates.

Personally I couldn't care less. I just was the cheapest oil possible that going to last until the next scheduled service.

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:39 pm
by falcomunky
Well, I guess parts of Germany and Sweden would count for a generally colder climate than here in the UK. :smt002
As in most things in life/biking: You pay your money, you get your quality. Cheap oil doesn't have the same additives that the more expensive stuff does and going by recent scandals, you might even be putting boiled horse in yer motor! :smt005

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:41 pm
by wayofthedarkhand
falcomunky wrote:Well, I guess parts of Germany and Sweden would count for a generally colder climate than here in the UK. :smt002
As in most things in life/biking: You pay your money, you get your quality. Cheap oil doesn't have the same additives that the more expensive stuff does and going by recent scandals, you might even be putting boiled horse in yer motor! :smt005
Might see an increase in BHP :smt003

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:42 pm
by Aladinsaneuk
Some of us believe there was a change around 2001 - bikes from 2002/3 run full synth oil with no problems. The earlier bikes IN THE MAIN need semi synth or the clutches slip

I am not aware of any clutch slipping with 10/40 - indeed aprilia issued a directive to dealers to use 10/40 IF clutch slip was reported with 15/50

I use semi synth 10/40.... And yes I do buy a quality one :)

We do get a discount with opies oils

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:02 pm
by fatboy
I did run on Fuchs 15/50, then changed to Castrol 10/40 Magnatec ( or some silly name)
Conclusion...
now find neutral first time every time, but think I hear a bit more mechanical noise

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:25 pm
by D-Rider
I thought Magnatec was car oil?

Apparently it can be a bit risky putting that in a bike with a wet clutch as the added friction modifiers can cause clutch slip

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:34 am
by Cathcart
I've always used castrol power 1 in previous bikes and I'll use the same in the falco...

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:16 am
by Aladinsaneuk
Magnatec is a car only oil though there is a bike version iirv

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:45 pm
by gazzo
I always use the Mobil 1 Fully Synthetic Racing 4T 15/50w. I have had the bike 2 years in spring and have had no problems. I have an 05 model although made in 03. I see no one ever mentions this oil, is there future probs if I continue to use?
Gaz.