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Why has no one from what I've searched cut the top off the box with a big hole saw to be inside the filter.Surely that in itself would chuck a lot more air in without loosing the box top completely.... I'm struggling to see how clean the airs going to be once the tank is sealing the top of the air box.......

Also this wiring mod I'm reading everywhere. Why's it being made so complex. All you need is two wires from the rectifier to the battery. (with a inline fuse if you're bothered)

ROCKOZ wrote:Why has no one from what I've searched cut the top off the box with a big hole saw to be inside the filter.Surely that in itself would chuck a lot more air in without loosing the box top completely.... I'm struggling to see how clean the airs going to be once the tank is sealing the top of the air box.......

Also this wiring mod I'm reading everywhere. Why's it being made so complex. All you need is two wires from the rectifier to the battery. (with a inline fuse if you're bothered)

if you cut a big hole, it will let in more air , BUT not filtered
its not more air that it needs its more volume ie bigger air box

well yes two wires , but you have th join em up, you can slash it twist em together or put in multi pin connectors and join them up proper

I think he means a hole opposite the proper intake at the other end of the filter.

If I'm reading it right I don't see that being a huge benfit as it would allow a path for the air to escape out the top of the airbox and out under the tank.

I'm not a great believer in the ram air effect that the falco can achieve, but the positive force that must exist in the closed system has got to be better than relying on scavaging alone, although the Renegade setup does just that and pretty damn well.

Falcopops wrote:I think he means a hole opposite the proper intake at the other end of the filter.

If I'm reading it right I don't see that being a huge benfit as it would allow a path for the air to escape out the top of the airbox and out under the tank.

I'm not a great believer in the ram air effect that the falco can achieve, but the positive force that must exist in the closed system has got to be better than relying on scavaging alone, although the Renegade setup does just that and pretty damn well.

well yes,, but when not moving or going slowly. will it not suck air/dirt in ?
i dont think the falco does much in the way of ram air, but just gets cool air from the front... i have a griff type evo system its a big improvement

Ram air effect has been tested on milles - does nothing

As above - volume of filtered air is what is needed

I suppose...

you could cut a circle that matches the inside of the filter.. then put some filter foam under the box lid when you secure it.. so you have the full airbox plus an ability for it to draw from between the airbox lid and the underside of the tank... I think starting with small holes and building up would be the best way of investigating that idea

it's not been done before and is about the only one direction left that doesn't include aspects already covered outside of Noale...

if the mille was running I would've gone n trialled it this evening as I have an airbox, foam, a dremel and a hugely inquisitive nature, plus there's heaps of lovely cold air flying about...

bollocks. wish i'd considered it before..

Kwackerz wrote:I suppose...

you could cut a circle that matches the inside of the filter.. then put some filter foam under the box lid when you secure it.. so you have the full airbox plus an ability for it to draw from between the airbox lid and the underside of the tank... I think starting with small holes and building up would be the best way of investigating that idea

it's not been done before and is about the only one direction left that doesn't include aspects already covered outside of Noale...

if the mille was running I would've gone n trialled it this evening as I have an airbox, foam, a dremel and a hugely inquisitive nature, plus there's heaps of lovely cold air flying about...

bollocks. wish i'd considered it before..

You've got the right idea although why do you even need a bit of foam above it. The air will still go through the filter before it hits the throttle bodies...

As regards to the wiring mod. I meant the charging mod! I've done my own version today and it's far simpler than what's advertised on the forums....I'll start a new thread with pictures, instructions and evidence at some point soon......

Unless I'm getting confused about what you want to do... The air comes up through your filter into the air box where the throttle bodies are. It doesn't go down through the filter to them. If you cut your airbox then the air getting in won't be filtered unless you put the foam at the hole.

[You've got the right idea although why do you even need a bit of foam above it. The air will still go through the filter before it hits the throttle bodies...

why will the air bother to get sucked through the filter when it can take
the easy pathway through the fecking big holes you have drilled

ROCKOZ wrote:

Kwackerz wrote:I suppose...

you could cut a circle that matches the inside of the filter.. then put some filter foam under the box lid when you secure it.. so you have the full airbox plus an ability for it to draw from between the airbox lid and the underside of the tank... I think starting with small holes and building up would be the best way of investigating that idea

it's not been done before and is about the only one direction left that doesn't include aspects already covered outside of Noale...

if the mille was running I would've gone n trialled it this evening as I have an airbox, foam, a dremel and a hugely inquisitive nature, plus there's heaps of lovely cold air flying about...

bollocks. wish i'd considered it before..

You've got the right idea although why do you even need a bit of foam above it. The air will still go through the filter before it hits the throttle bodies....

I'd only want it partially adding to the flow, not becoming the main feeder..

It worked in my head when I was umming n aaahhing over it The engine gets plenty of air from low down the rev range and the box is fine for that as standard, it's at the higher revs it wants to breathe better.

davebms wrote:[You've got the right idea although why do you even need a bit of foam above it. The air will still go through the filter before it hits the throttle bodies...

why will the air bother to get sucked through the filter when it can take
the easy pathway through the fecking big holes you have drilled

because theyre drilled on the inlet side to the filter

Cathcart.. it comes up, but if you look at the filter here, there's the ability for it to be made to come down too.

Kwackerz wrote:

davebms wrote:[You've got the right idea although why do you even need a bit of foam above it. The air will still go through the filter before it hits the throttle bodies...

why will the air bother to get sucked through the filter when it can take
the easy pathway through the fecking big holes you have drilled

because theyre drilled on the inlet side to the filter

i thought that only the y piece end the snorkles are on the inlet side.. not had the tank up for ages so cant remember it all .. but im shure the filter
is pushed down onto the inlet side,, thats where the inlet restrictor usd to be

Yeah it comes in via those, fed up into the filter that is held down by the top of the airbox. so in theory there's a what.. 2" circle of plastic that can be played with on the top of the airbox. everyone cuts away around it to utilise the standard filter shape, what has been suggested is reversing the bit that gets cut away.. so instead of cutting away 80% of the top lid of the airbox, leaving a 2-3" circle over the filter, you keep the box and cut the 2-3" circle away..

if you see what I mean

that's the normal cutaway.. (where they add a sealstrip at the edge)

Hmmmm

Be interesting - I can sort of see it but.....