jack up kit

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ROCKOZ · #1 Post by **ROCKOZ** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:57 pm

I've seen a 35mm jack up triangle/bones on a German site.
Any thoughts on this?
All appreciated
Cheers Ollie

Aladinsaneuk · #2 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:29 pm

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I would think the handling change a fair bit

falcomunky · #3 Post by **falcomunky** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:31 pm

I take it your after better front end stability? You could drop the forks through the yokes to get the same effect (with no cost involved) assuming yours hasn't already had it done.

D-Rider · #4 Post by **D-Rider** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:35 pm

What shock and linkages are you running now?

Plenty of scope with some of the adjustable ride height shocks and dropping the yokes down the forks a bit to get some more razor-like handling .... and then throw in some lightweight wheels

ROCKOZ · #5 Post by **ROCKOZ** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:56 pm

Everythings standard. It's a 7k mile bike with both restrictions in place as far as I'm aware....
I owned a bandit before and raised the rear 50mm to improve steering sharpness plus simply the ride height.
Tbh the steering is sharp enough and all I want is a taller bike.
Dunno where the forks should sit but theres 3 or 4 rings showing higher than the yokes.. I'll probably raise the yoke/drop the forks as well if I jacked the rear to keep the steering sharpness the same...also got a yoke with mounts for proper bars in the post.......

blinkey501 · #6 Post by **blinkey501** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:04 pm

ROCKOZ wrote:Everythings standard. It's a 7k mile bike with both restrictions in place as far as I'm aware....

A virgin???? Well wait until the bike is de-restricted and i am sure you will be grinning like a cheshire cat

If the shock is standard, budget for something else has the origional is shite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
Then look at sorting out the back end

#7 Post by **mangocrazy** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:05 pm

I'll be honest - if you fit an Ohlins or Sachs off the RSV Mille, jack the ride height up to max and have 5 lines showing above the yokes, it will steer pretty damn quickly. You'll be running out of sidestand if you go that far, even with a GSXR or Honda item. With the OE stand you'd have some serious instability issues.

D-Rider · #8 Post by **D-Rider** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:48 am

mangocrazy wrote:I'll be honest - if you fit an Ohlins or Sachs off the RSV Mille, jack the ride height up to max and have 5 lines showing above the yokes, it will steer pretty damn quickly. You'll be running out of sidestand if you go that far, even with a GSXR or Honda item. With the OE stand you'd have some serious instability issues.

What he said

For goodness sake scrap that blue spring shock - the ride height is far less of an issue than the performance of that thing!

However as Mango says fit a Yellow spring Sachs off of a first Gen Mille or Ohlins off of a MilleR (together with the triangles and linkages of the bike they came from) and things will be transformed .... and you will get ride height adjustment on the shock.
The replacement shock will probably be a bit tired by now but a good service before it is fitted will sort that out.

ROCKOZ · #9 Post by **ROCKOZ** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:55 am

Could I do all that and 'jack it up'? (then carry a block of wood around to stop it falling over) ;)

Why is it so important to use the linkages of whichever shock I were to buy?

I read a sticky thread about it but didn't really get it.......

plus is that blue springed shock really 'that' bad? How much could I get a replacement for>?

Cheers

ROCKOZ · #10 Post by **ROCKOZ** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:58 am

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aprilia-RSV-1 ... _92wt_1141

This kinda item?

D-Rider · #11 Post by **D-Rider** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:02 am

ROCKOZ wrote:
Why is it so important to use the linkages of whichever shock I were to buy?

Shocks are designed for different leverage ratios (distance moved at swingarm compared to distance moved at shock).
You need the linkage to give the geometry the shock was built for (or, like Mango, get the shock re-valved and re-sprung to suit the linkage you have)

D-Rider · #12 Post by **D-Rider** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:02 am

ROCKOZ wrote:http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aprilia-RSV-1 ... _92wt_1141

This kinda item?

Spot on

ROCKOZ · #13 Post by **ROCKOZ** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:17 am

Is this for sale by anyone on here?

If not no one bid then I'll upgrade my bike!

:D Thanks

blinkey501 · #14 Post by **blinkey501** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:46 pm

ROCKOZ wrote:
plus is that blue springed shock really 'that' bad?

Worse

Its that bad you can't even get one serviced.
The only time you might benefit from one of these is on a track day where the surface is smooth.
Even that said if you was a "good" rider you would still probably benefit from a better shock

ROCKOZ · #15 Post by **ROCKOZ** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:12 pm

Another issue with simply swapping for an RSV shock... I'm probably the weight of a rider plus passenger myself. Is even the RSV shocks up to that kinda abuse?