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Aladinsaneuk · #46 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 4:44 pm

It's a bit of a bugger to do if you do not have the right tools

I paid a similar amount BUT I was lucky - I got a new set of of internals....

randomsquid · #47 Post by **randomsquid** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:15 pm

spiderwheels wrote:
blinkey501 wrote:
I got quoted 170 quid for progressive springs. Oil and seals. I thought that was fair. I think that included postage back to me also. Not sure though
OK thanks. that doesn't seem so pricey :) I'll give them a ring!

They're fair on price and they've seen falcos before.

I'm assuming you have marzocchi forks, if so there's a manual here. http://www.martinpoll.dk/div_april.htm

I just took mine to Revs, he's local to me. Made a big difference to the handling. He had to strip the forks and measure the springs before he ordered the new ones, think he was used to Falcos with showas on.

It was a couple of years ago but I think he charged me £370. That was for taking the forks and shock out. Rebuild, respring and revalve the shock. Rebuild and respring the forks and put the bike back together. I know a goodly chunk of the cost was parts. I remember him saying one of the mudguard bolts was more or less stuck, rather it was his problem than mine.

Cathcart · #48 Post by **Cathcart** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:37 pm

Don't know if its been mentioned but according to the forks download from that link, the oil weight for marzocchi is 7.5...
Pg 84 section 6.2

D-Rider · #49 Post by **D-Rider** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:43 pm

I took my Ohlins forks to Revs to be serviced before I fitted them in place of my Marzocchis.
I was happy with what he did - and John's a great guy too.
No idea regarding improvement though as I've never had a set serviced for the Falco that I've previously used.

I think it's about time I had my ohlins rear shock serviced .... but the thought of having to go back to using the blue spring sachs while it's away is not an appealing prospect.

Cathcart · #50 Post by **Cathcart** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:46 pm

I've not even fitted my RSV shock yet, sitting there with the linkage....

randomsquid · #51 Post by **randomsquid** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:22 pm

D-Rider wrote: I think it's about time I had my ohlins rear shock serviced .... but the thought of having to go back to using the blue spring sachs while it's away is not an appealing prospect.

It wouldn't take long to turn round during the off season. Mine was done in two days, would have been one if he'd had the springs in hand.

#52 Post by **mangocrazy** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:32 pm

Randomsquid makes a good point - it certainly looks like your Falco has the less common Marzocchi forks. The internal design of those is quite different to the Showa equivalents, but as RS says, Revs have seen them before. The progressive springs that Revs will fit will almost certainly be Wilbers rather than Hyperpro, but there's nothing wrong with that. Wilbers make good quality kit.

Nitron shocks have a good reputation, so don't be put off it. Does yours have a ride height adjuster on it (normally situated below the rebound adjuster)? If not, then you might want to scour eBay for a suitable Ohlins or Sachs RSV shock and sell yours on using the Bay of e... Setting rear ride height is key in getting the bike to turn properly, and if you don't have that adjustment it's a bit limiting.

If it does, then your quids in, of course.

spiderwheels · #53 Post by **spiderwheels** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:01 pm

I thought all forks on these were Showa. I've not seen anything before about Marzocchi in everything I've read so far! :) Was this a change to the later bikes like mine?

Aladinsaneuk · #54 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:34 pm

Yep

Fitted as standard to later slower colours

D-Rider · #55 Post by **D-Rider** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:51 pm

randomsquid wrote:
D-Rider wrote: I think it's about time I had my ohlins rear shock serviced .... but the thought of having to go back to using the blue spring sachs while it's away is not an appealing prospect.
It wouldn't take long to turn round during the off season. Mine was done in two days, would have been one if he'd had the springs in hand.

What is this "off season" of which you speak? Is there a specific time of year in which you are meant to fall off then?

Just a matter of finding time to get the shocks and linkages swapped over then riding to the other side of that blot on the landscape of Birmingham (never a quick or pleasurable experience), leave it to be sorted, find time to go and collect it (across Birmingham) and then re-fit it.
Not going to be that quick and take a couple of consecutive free Saturdays to drop off and collect .... there's another challenge.

I'll get it done sometime.

D-Rider · #56 Post by **D-Rider** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:55 pm

Aladinsaneuk wrote:Yep

Fitted as standard to later slower colours

Well yes & no and no

Some of the earlier bikes of the later colour schemes got showas - though most got marzocchis.

The colours might be slower but that's just the handicap system to compensate for them being ridden by the faster riders (with Keith being the exception - of course)

D-Rider · #57 Post by **D-Rider** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:58 pm

mangocrazy wrote:
Nitron shocks have a good reputation, so don't be put off it. Does yours have a ride height adjuster on it (normally situated below the rebound adjuster)? If not, then you might .....

..... be able to get one retro fitted if you contact nitron (or a suspension specialist - maybe even Revs)

Worth asking anyway.

#58 Post by **mangocrazy** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:46 pm

spiderwheels wrote:I thought all forks on these were Showa. I've not seen anything before about Marzocchi in everything I've read so far! :) Was this a change to the later bikes like mine?

The later bikes could come with either Showa or Marzocchis. It's my suspicion that the Marzocchi-clad bikes were the real last of the line models, as Aprilia had run out of Showas and had to source an equivalent to get the last bikes out the door. But that's purely a guess on my part.

Take a photograph of the fork caps/tops and we can positively identify one way or t'other.

Mine's a Flamingo Red/Anthracite model with the black frame and mine has Showas. But looking at the engine/frame number it seems to have been made early in the late model production run (if you know what I mean) and has Showas fitted.

MartDude · #59 Post by **MartDude** » Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:14 am

mangocrazy wrote:]
The later bikes could come with either Showa or Marzocchis. It's my suspicion that the Marzocchi-clad bikes were the real last of the line models, as Aprilia had run out of Showas and had to source an equivalent to get the last bikes out the door. But that's purely a guess on my part.

Same with Futuras

D-Rider · #60 Post by **D-Rider** » Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:16 am

mangocrazy wrote:It's my suspicion that the Marzocchi-clad bikes were the real last of the line models, as Aprilia had run out of Showas and had to source an equivalent to get the last bikes out the door. But that's purely a guess on my part.

Not entirely sure I'm on solid ground here but didn't the Tuonos of those years also have showas?