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D-Rider · #31 Post by **D-Rider** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:38 pm

.... so the £199 I paid a few weeks ago for a pair of Diablo Rosso Corsas, fitted was not a bad deal then.

(though I realised that at the time)

Falco9 · #32 Post by **Falco9** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:57 pm

Always worth scanning eBay for tyres as well if you're in search of a good deal.

I picked up a brand new pair of Diablo Corsa's for the Falco a couple of weeks ago for the princely sum of £110 and the following week a pair of brand new Michelin Annakee 2's for the panzer for £150 (needless to say SWMBO hasn't seen them and they are hidden in the shed)

The best deal ever has been a pair of bridgestones (020) (the rear is almost brand new) for £4.20!!!! I felt like I was robbing him when I collected them

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roosterNI · #33 Post by **roosterNI** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:18 am

wow that is cheap, at least dick turpin wore a mask!

HowardQ · #34 Post by **HowardQ** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 12:42 pm

roosterNI wrote:wow that is cheap, at least dick turpin wore a mask!

Come on -

Have you noticed F9's Avatar?

Falco9 · #35 Post by **Falco9** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 1:58 pm

HowardQ wrote:
roosterNI wrote:wow that is cheap, at least dick turpin wore a mask!
Come on -

Have you noticed F9's Avatar?

In my defence it wasn't my fault no one else bid on them

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Nooj · #36 Post by **Nooj** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 5:14 pm

Although I try to get matching rubber at both ends sometimes it doesn't happen. But I've never had a problem mixing tyres. I've had Continental and Bridgestone or Mezeller and Bridgestone both on my Fazer. Also Metzeller and Bridgestone and now Pirelli and Mezeller on the Falco with no issues at all.

It's not just an old wive's tale based on the radial/crossply mixing problems of old is it?

I think as long as you pick similar tyres (in purpose, performance and profile) you'll have nothing to worry about for day-to day riding regardless of who makes them. It's worked for me anyway.

Re: The coloured dot. How many tyre fitters know about this? It doesn't seem to be high on their priority list when fitting mine.

And Puncturesafe's sealants won't balance your wheels. Although it much of it does get flung around inside your tyres as a liquid when on the move, it is designed to cling to some extent. In fact if your wheel is not properly balanced, all tyre sealants can exacerbate the issue (also true of worn bearings).

joecrx · #37 Post by **joecrx** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 5:53 pm

my first concern to putting the beads in is when you break the beads will keep spinning i think , causing the wheel to be unbalanced ,
second although your alloy cast wheel should be ballanced when new , the tyre wont be ,

my mates got one of abbas wheel kits

http://www.abbastands.co.uk/product_details.asp?id=38

says it will take a few tyre changes to pay for itself and has to buy weights when required

tyre sealent this looks good

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emTvm5tu0ac

also is this a good buy for a set of tyres ? dont know much about them

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SL1000-Falco-Maxx ... 4cf48e5a13

over and out
joe

Falco9 · #38 Post by **Falco9** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:26 pm

joecrx wrote:my first concern to putting the beads in is when you break the beads will keep spinning i think , causing the wheel to be unbalanced

I think this explains how its supposed to work quite well. I have a couple of packs of these dynabeads which I'm planning on using on the Falco wheels when I put the Diablo's on in a few weeks

http://www.dynabeads.co.uk/how.php

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D-Rider · #39 Post by **D-Rider** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:59 pm

Falco9 wrote:
joecrx wrote:my first concern to putting the beads in is when you break the beads will keep spinning i think , causing the wheel to be unbalanced
I think this explains how its supposed to work quite well. I have a couple of packs of these dynabeads which I'm planning on using on the Falco wheels when I put the Diablo's on in a few weeks

http://www.dynabeads.co.uk/how.php

F9

Interesting .... though as Joe suggests and I also speculated in an earlier thread, I can't see how they won't continue to rotate faster than the tyre when you hit the brakes.

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Samray · #40 Post by **Samray** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 10:01 pm

D-Rider wrote:
Interesting .... though as Joe suggests and I also speculated in an earlier thread, I can't see how they won't continue to rotate faster than the tyre when you hit the brakes.

h

and I thought it was you produced a description of centripetal force some time back.

MartDude · #41 Post by **MartDude** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 10:24 pm

Nooj wrote: I try to get matching rubber at both ends

D-Rider · #42 Post by **D-Rider** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:01 pm

Samray wrote:
D-Rider wrote:
Interesting .... though as Joe suggests and I also speculated in an earlier thread, I can't see how they won't continue to rotate faster than the tyre when you hit the brakes.

and I thought it was you produced a description of centripetal force some time back.

This is inertia

back_marker · #43 Post by **back_marker** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 7:46 am

Whilst it may have some effect on the braking force required, I would question whether 3 oz (75g for Foreign types) of smoothly rotating, evenly spread balls, spread between both wheels will have more of an effect on braking than, say a moderately heavy rucksack or topbox that many of us will carry to work on the bike in the morning without a noteable difference in stopping distance or stability.

The point that i think needs to be remembered for both this and the other topic of mixing tyre brands is that whilst these things may have some effect at the limit, generally speaking I don't think any of us are riding at the absolute limit of what the bike can do (some of us more so than others).

Just my 2p worth.

D-Rider · #44 Post by **D-Rider** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 8:48 am

Noooooo .... the point is not about any insignificant effect on braking but because the if beads were to rotate at a different speed to the wheel, they would upset the balance of the wheel ...... and if they don't, whether they were doing anything in the first place.

Samray · #45 Post by **Samray** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:48 am

D-Rider wrote:
Samray wrote:
D-Rider wrote:
Interesting .... though as Joe suggests and I also speculated in an earlier thread, I can't see how they won't continue to rotate faster than the tyre when you hit the brakes.

and I thought it was you produced a description of centripetal force some time back.
This is inertia

Inertial force on the beads would be forwards, gravitational force would be a downward slump. While a combination of these would be somewhere inbetween and changing as speed decreases at no time is there a rotational force on them.