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#31 Post by cornish mafia » Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:19 pm

Was thinking with a pc3 couldn't we all just share maps when we have them ?? The more we get the better and then post them on here for who ever wants them ..........not sure if that would work or not never using it before but as it's only data couldn't we pass that on ??

Will swap back chips as well but have just had call to go to work tomorrow so that's me for another month , knew it was coming so have sotred new swinging arm out today and it's being fitted as we speak , picking up later tonight hopefully even if it is to just ride it to the garage and put it away for another month ........talk about timing !!! :smt013

Ebay for a pc 3 while i'm away i think .........and someone who knows what they're doing as well to fit it .......... :smt003
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#32 Post by Aladinsaneuk » Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:46 pm

maps can be shared - indeed many of us have swopped maps

but

each bike, even with similar components on will map differently

fitting the pc3 is easy btw


Let's face it, you wouldn't go to a nurse to get good advice on a problem with a Falco - you'd choose an Engineer or a mechanic...


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#33 Post by D-Rider » Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:14 pm

Aladinsaneuk wrote:maps can be shared - indeed many of us have swopped maps

but

each bike, even with similar components on will map differently

fitting the pc3 is easy btw
This is one of the mysteries of Falco-lore.

The wise words say:
  • He who hath a Falco of similar configuration to another Falco brother or sister may not share a map of power commander wisdom and expect it to work with exceeding excellence.
Yet more wise words say:
  • He that wanteth a chip for his prized Falco may pick up an Fp or Renegade chip and it will work wonders or he may contact the guru Gabro and explain to Gabro the configuration of his Falco. The great lord Gabro will then select from his hoard of magic maps the most suitable and it will provide the sweetest tune that can be experienced by all of Falco-kind.
My feeling is that a well chosen shared fuelling map for a PCIII should be no worse than a well chosen chip selected for a particular configuration of bike.
This, of course, ignores the ignition map changes that some of the chips offer.

That said, this is just a personal opinion based on thinking it through rather than on years of research and testing ....
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#34 Post by Aladinsaneuk » Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:02 pm

you been smoking Moroccan woodbines and god bothering again andy?

and yes - he is pretty much right


Let's face it, you wouldn't go to a nurse to get good advice on a problem with a Falco - you'd choose an Engineer or a mechanic...


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#35 Post by paddyz1 » Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:42 pm

Maps are here

There are at least 5 maps that i got from various members here and abroad. sl1000dk was kind enough to host them

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#36 Post by cornish mafia » Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:29 pm

All sounding good to me but now something else .........i've just been called down to see the new swinging arm fitted to my bike and it looks great BUT ........and it's a big BUT ........i had ride height adjusted right up to the top ( ohlins ) on the old swinging arm and all was well so just swap straight over i thought but now it's almost as if the bikes going to fall over on the side stand ............does adding the swinging arm raise ride height loads or not ........OR .......and is this possible .......could they have put the wish bone on the wrong way giving so much height ............
I will come down on the ride height but could it be something else instead or is it that simple !>>!>!>!>

Flying out to work first thing tomorrow so not even got time to play around on it ...........GUTTED .......

Also would the old chain fit or do i need a longer one ???
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#37 Post by paddyz1 » Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:03 pm

I've just put an RSV swingarm on and there is no difference in height

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#38 Post by cornish mafia » Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:51 am

SO IT MUST BE THE RIDE HEIGHT ON THE OHLINS SHOCK ? ......IS THERE A WAY THE WISHBONE COULD BE IN THE WRONG WAY OR NOT AS I ASSUME THESE PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING ??? NOTHING I CAN DO ABOUT IT NOW THOUGH ...........GUTTING ...
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#39 Post by anzacinexile » Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:30 am

I would say its the Ohlins setting. With bleedin' great arrows on the triangles you have to be pretty dumb to get it wrong

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#40 Post by D-Rider » Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:58 am

anzacinexile wrote:I would say its the Ohlins setting. With bleedin' great arrows on the triangles you have to be pretty dumb to get it wrong
.... unless you stick it in with the arrow indicating "this way up" rather than forwards ....


Not slipped in the shorter Falco dogbone per chance?


pics would help - we could probably tell you straight away then .................
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#41 Post by cornish mafia » Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:33 pm

Am now in France in a crap hotel waiting for flight to the Congo so no chance today of photos .......My mate is picking up bike later and riding home so will get him to send photos ......Like you i can't see them getting wishbone wrong but you never know but have to admit it was looking very high at the back on full raise height . Now that could be fun for sure but thought i'd better check with you forum gods before getting on it ..................THAT'S WHY I'M SENDING A GOOD MATE LOL :smt005 .......

The Ohlins i have is off a 2002 / 2003 and the same for the wishbone going onto a black swinging arm fitting 1998 - 2004 .......so all should be good there ..

Maybe i'm making more of it then should be and will wait and see what my mate says ......when ......IF ....he makes it to my garage !!!
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#42 Post by D-Rider » Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:38 pm

If you have an ohlins on max ride height, it does push it pretty high.
That's how mine is set up.

A couple of weeks ago Dalemac and I were comparing our Falcos while we sorted out his heated grips and it was very obvious just how much higher the back of mine was than his.
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#43 Post by Nooj » Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:53 pm

When you're on about a wishbone, do you mean the triangles or the dog bone (with the bearings in either end)? Just in case I've missed something obvious.
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#44 Post by cornish mafia » Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:03 pm

Was hoping someone would say that as fingers crossed that's all it is , can remember on the Falco before this i fitting a Penske shock and had that up full and that was pretty high . A balance act on the side stand sometimes depending on where you were and always on Paddock stand on the garage ....... time for a piece of wood under the passager seat again ....
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#45 Post by D-Rider » Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:10 pm

cornish mafia wrote:Was hoping someone would say that as fingers crossed that's all it is , can remember on the Falco before this i fitting a Penske shock and had that up full and that was pretty high . A balance act on the side stand sometimes depending on where you were and always on Paddock stand on the garage ....... time for a piece of wood under the passager seat again ....
What sidestand are you using? The Gixer one on mine works great with the ohlins on any ride height and also the blue spring standard sachs
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