Falco sidestand mod

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Aladinsaneuk · #16 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:13 pm

standard vtr i believe - any year

rick · #17 Post by **rick** » Sun Mar 28, 2010 9:22 am

Ordered the VTR stand so will fit it during the week :)

rick · #18 Post by **rick** » Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:30 pm

So its come and I've removed the switch and leg and fitted it onto the Falco.

A couple of things I've noticed... the stand, when up, sits too high and fouls on the exhaust so I was thinking of either drilling a little hole and putting a screw in there to act as a stop or putting a bit of weld on. Not a major biggy.

I need to use the switch from the VTR stand due to the locating pin in the leg, but it was a simple swap and its plugged into the loom and appears to work fine.

I was a little concerned at first that I hadn't tightened the bolt that attaches the leg to the bracket enough becuase when the stand was down I could pull it away from the bike (sort of upwards and towards you when looking at the bike side-on) and it would give slightly. I then really tightened the bolt and now it doesnt happen, but the movement of the stand is a lot tighter and the spring doesn't really do anything anymore! How tight should it be in terms of torque?

I can't remember whether the OEM stand "gave" like this or whether it was a snug fit whilst allowing free movement of the stand.

One final thing is that I am trying to remember how far over the bike leant on the OEM stand... I don't know if its just me but it doesnt lool *that* far leant over now... although I suppose at least the stand ain't made of cheese ;)

Nooj · #19 Post by **Nooj** » Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:52 pm

A bit of slop is to be expected, it's a part from a different bike after all, my GSXR stand does the same thing by moving about on the bracket a little. I did what you suggested and put a small screw into the stand as mine also caught the exhaust on the way up with a loud CLANG!

Just to be sure, it is a stand from a VTR Firestorm, rather than a VTR SP1/SP2 isn't it?

rick · #20 Post by **rick** » Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:23 pm

Its this one: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... _589wt_734

Aladinsaneuk · #21 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:32 pm

think you will find it is the kick down bar that is hitting the exhaust... a subtle pressure with a large birmingham screwdriver will fix that.....

rick · #22 Post by **rick** » Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:45 pm

Nope, its not the kick down bar but the lower part of the side stand just above the foot ;)

Aladinsaneuk · #23 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Tue Mar 30, 2010 11:03 pm

ahhh - blob of weld then - i had mine fitted with high mount exhausts or a right side only can....

rick · #24 Post by **rick** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:39 am

Right... I'll remove the leg and take it to work today, they have a workshop so I'm sure they can sort it for me.

I didn't expect to be so nervous with putting this new leg on... it was/is an easy enough job, but so much rides on it lol

Firestarter · #25 Post by **Firestarter** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 7:15 am

I had the same prob as you Rick with the Gixxer stand, stand came up too far and clipped the exhaust, and seemed to be rubbing when riding. Was due to the "slop" (as Nooj expertly put it!) being the problem, if you pulled it slightly outwards it cleared by a long margin, any play is exaggerated because the replacement stands are so much longer than the original.

I tried making a little spacer by grinding down a washer, but it was so thin it was pretty useless (bent easily). Eventually got one to work, but too much faff. Blob of weld (if I could weld) would be the better option.

rick · #26 Post by **rick** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 7:29 am

Yeah seems as if blobs of weld are the way to go!

I've now taken it off and will take it to the machine shop at work and ask them to do something with it... regarding the length (oo-er)... I would say its longer than the original, but not a great deal so... the biggest difference is the foot being longer and pointing the right direction!

BTW see the attached picture... this is the new stand... I placed it on the work surface and only just noticed it ain't particularly straight... is this normal? It came of an R reg VTR 1000 firestorm and its got me wondering whether it was knocked in an accident or something... or maybe I'm just being paranoid and they're always like this!

If its better to be straight/should be straight I'll get them to do that at the shop as well :)

rick · #27 Post by **rick** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:00 am

Well its with the machine shop here at work, and they've put a thread in for a bolt to be added to stop it hitting the exhaust :)

Re: the bend, other VTR stands I've seen on the net have a similar shape so not overly concerned about that.

The other bit of work they're doing as we speak is drilling a second hole for the sidestand switch... although the VTR one does work, apparently it doesn't cut the engine (didn't try that last night!). At least this way I'll retain that feature by using the existing Falco switch.

I haven't bothered putting a stop on the other side when the side stand is down... I can't see any good reason why not to... and the fact its a little more forward I think is a good thing because its less likely to roll forward and come of the stand if the situation ever arises!

I'll post a pic of the modded stand once they've finished drilling! EDIT here it is :)

I may need to deepen the appropriate hole for the standard falco sidestand switch, but that'll be easy enough :)

http://www.photobox.co.uk/album/hosted/348911024

Fausto · #28 Post by **Fausto** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:18 pm

My VTR stand seems to be straight. It needed a small blob of weld adding to the front side as I felt it rotated past the optimum position. It doesn't come into contact with the exhaust when retracted. The bend on your stand could explain why yours acts differently ??