4 pad calipers

[Aladinsaneuk]

Yes

If you are buying new lines, then get separates

Remember to get FALCO length lines....

[D-Rider]

Thanks guys, I know the standard setup is three lines. I was wondering if a two line setup forvstockmcalipersvwill suit the 4 pad calipers?

I have 2 lines with my 4-pad callipers as the master cylinder I'm using came with a bolt for 2 banjos.
TBH I can't see any reason why this should be better than the usual 3 line setup.

[mangocrazy]

Lines for OE calipers and 4-pad calipers are not interchangeable. 4-pad calipers have a different mounting point orientation to OE (90 degrees different, in fact).

So decide which calipers you're going with and buy the appropriate lines. It's a lot easier to order up lines for the OE setup - pretty much everyone can supply as it's a standard configuration. 4-pad caliper hoses for a Falco will be a custom fitment.

[mangocrazy]

Thanks guys, I know the standard setup is three lines. I was wondering if a two line setup forvstockmcalipersvwill suit the 4 pad calipers?

I have 2 lines with my 4-pad callipers as the master cylinder I'm using came with a bolt for 2 banjos.
TBH I can't see any reason why this should be better than the usual 3 line setup.

Me neither. It's gone down in biking folk-lore that racers use two separate lines so it must be better, IMHO. The feel and stopping power I get from a single line which splits into two is as good as any braking set up I've ever known.

[Aladinsaneuk]

Though our friendly chap at HEL will make the correct Mille lines up at falco length..

I had an extra 2 inches added on top of that due to my bar fitment

[zoidberg]

Every man needs 2 more inches.

[Falco Frank]

As an aside HEL do a great 'sideways' adapter for radial master cylinders that have the outlet pointing downwards:



I bought mine via Ebay here:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HEL-PERFORMAN ... 0990282716

(I didnt need mine as the Tuono hose fitted a treat but I did use some of the spares the kit came with).

Big Thumbs up from me for HEL products in the past.

[D-Rider]

That would have been useful when I did mine!

[Nooj]

4-pads, billet levers and braided lines together will give you about 95% of the performance of the radial set-up on later bikes (I reckon). Big expense all together though.

As I understand it, a two-line system is better as both calipers get a shot of fluid together. The 'over the fender' system gets fluid to one caliper, then once that's closed up the fluid moves on to the second caliper, so there is less efficiency. A three line system should be as good as a two line set up using this reasoning. Be interested to hear any other theories on this as it's something I've occasionally wondered about.

[mangocrazy]

As an aside HEL do a great 'sideways' adapter for radial master cylinders that have the outlet pointing downwards:



I bought mine via Ebay here:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HEL-PERFORMAN ... 0990282716

(I didnt need mine as the Tuono hose fitted a treat but I did use some of the spares the kit came with).

Big Thumbs up from me for HEL products in the past.

Yes, I used one of those for the clutch radial master cylinder. Very useful pieces of kit.

Agree with Nooj about the hose that loops over the mudguard - not really a very good idea. By three line system I take it we mean a single line from master cylinder to either a splitter or a tee piece, from where a line goes off independently to each caliper? If so, yes - I believe that's as good as a two-line system.

[D-Rider]

..... but even the line that goes over the mudguard, I can't see it's much different. Until both callipers are "full" there will be negligible braking effect and you've still got to pull the lever the same distance to fill them both. That's the point you will start getting the feel in the lever and the braking can start.

[flatlander]

as a complete aside I was scanning through the titles and stopped by this one purely because I was convinvced it said 4 pair slippers