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D-Rider · #16 Post by **D-Rider** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 1:54 pm

No not just aprilia tanks. Apparently there are big problems with Ducattis
Steel tanks can be prone to rusting due to water separation.

Bet a lot of others suffer too

..... not to mention the problems with older fuel lines and carb seals etc ... both cars and bikes

MartDude · #17 Post by **MartDude** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:01 pm

Guzzis also; interesting discussion on AF1 Guzzi forum

#18 Post by **Kwackerz** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 6:02 pm

minor derail.. mine's been low on fuel for 2 weeks (light on) and the tank actually went up and down easier than it has of late. wonder if thats due to the weather being cooler or the fact the tank has had a chance to vent off with the reduced fuel in the tank..

#19 Post by **Kwackerz** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 6:04 pm

D-Rider wrote:
Kwackerz wrote:Surely its safer or easier to elongate the holes on the rear bracket?
Been there, done that - still not enough clearance

F-ing F-a-nol

Time for Will to start fabricating bracketry with longer holes...

I shall knock up a one off bracket for mine, but i reckon a bracket for RSV and Falco would be simple to produce and market..

MartDude · #20 Post by **MartDude** » Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:47 pm

Not just tanks being affected (pic & 3rd. paragraph) -

http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/show ... ost3199814

D-Rider · #21 Post by **D-Rider** » Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:12 am

Kwackerz wrote:
D-Rider wrote:
Kwackerz wrote:Surely its safer or easier to elongate the holes on the rear bracket?
Been there, done that - still not enough clearance

F-ing F-a-nol

Time for Will to start fabricating bracketry with longer holes...

I shall knock up a one off bracket for mine, but i reckon a bracket for RSV and Falco would be simple to produce and market..

No - it's beyond that - holes in brackets front and rear taken out as far as possible - you can only go so far at the back due to the seat.

D-Rider · #22 Post by **D-Rider** » Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:14 am

MartDude wrote:Not just tanks being affected (pic & 3rd. paragraph) -

http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/show ... ost3199814

To be fair, Aprilia does call for all fuel lines to be replaced regularly (I think it's either every 3 or 4 years in the workshop manual).
Doubt that many bother with this.

#23 Post by **Kwackerz** » Mon Aug 27, 2012 5:14 pm

D-Rider wrote:
Kwackerz wrote:
D-Rider wrote:
Kwackerz wrote:Surely its safer or easier to elongate the holes on the rear bracket?
Been there, done that - still not enough clearance

F-ing F-a-nol

Time for Will to start fabricating bracketry with longer holes...

I shall knock up a one off bracket for mine, but i reckon a bracket for RSV and Falco would be simple to produce and market..

No - it's beyond that - holes in brackets front and rear taken out as far as possible - you can only go so far at the back due to the seat.

Hmm.. had a look at mine and can fabricate a bracket to give me at least another 8 - 10mm of clearance before it affects my battery tray and seat

#24 Post by **Kwackerz** » Mon Aug 27, 2012 5:25 pm

D-Rider wrote:
MartDude wrote:Not just tanks being affected (pic & 3rd. paragraph) -

http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/show ... ost3199814
To be fair, Aprilia does call for all fuel lines to be replaced regularly (I think it's either every 3 or 4 years in the workshop manual).
Doubt that many bother with this.

http://www.change2e85.com/servlet/Page?template=Myths

Seems these guys would disagree about line degradation from a percentage of ethanol.. the tank swelling is.. undeniable but the lines.. i dont see that there's a problem if theyre changed at least once a decade.. doffing the cap to the manufacturer's replacement regime at least a little bit..

MartDude · #25 Post by **MartDude** » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:22 pm

Nice bit of spin for the ethanol industry there; wonder if the authors worked for Blair & Mandelson?

But I take the point about the recommendation for replacing hoses regularly.

There was a forum report of a US owner, reported on the FB K75/100 page, about a bike going up in flames - blamed on an injector o-ring failing due to ethanol; trying to get the forum link.

Nooj · #26 Post by **Nooj** » Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:30 pm

For all the best intentions that a petition or Trading Standards visit would be arranged with, ultimately the oil companies don't give a rat's ass about it, so will do nothing. Same with the government, because they're all in the oil companies' pockets :-/

D-Rider · #27 Post by **D-Rider** » Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:05 pm

Not sure it's come from the oil companies anyway. Isn't it all part of the misguided political "green credentials" stuff?

HowardQ · #28 Post by **HowardQ** » Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:20 pm

That was my view Andy.

rick · #29 Post by **rick** » Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:48 am

Whats the issue? Ethanol in fuel expanding the tank? First I've heard of this...

blinkey501 · #30 Post by **blinkey501** » Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:04 pm

rick wrote:Whats the issue? Ethanol in fuel expanding the tank? First I've heard of this...

Where have you been????? The moon