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#16 Post by zoidberg » Thu Jun 13, 2013 11:17 pm

Thanks, it something to think about. What year Mille?

Which radial master cylinder do you have?

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#17 Post by D-Rider » Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:46 am

zoidberg wrote:Thanks, it something to think about. What year Mille?
from whichever year they started fitting them 'till 2003 (just look at the pictures - you can tell them apart easily)
zoidberg wrote: Which radial master cylinder do you have?
I've the Brembo racing item but I'm pretty sure Mangocrazy has the ones off the later RSV1000
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#18 Post by blinkey501 » Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:07 am

HowardQ wrote:Think he is on the whiskey already, see post in general chat!
Mmmm I didn't realise I had done that.
I found the whisky quite pleasurable :smt003
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#19 Post by mangocrazy » Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:46 pm

D-Rider wrote:
zoidberg wrote: Which radial master cylinder do you have?
I've the Brembo racing item but I'm pretty sure Mangocrazy has the ones off the later RSV1000
Indeed he does. But if you want to fit Radial master cylinders to a Falco be prepared for hassle. They take up more space fore and aft than the OE versions and need more clearance than is available as standard. I had to completely re-work the handlebars to get mine to fit.

How did you manage with yours, Andy?

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#20 Post by D-Rider » Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:04 pm

mangocrazy wrote:
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zoidberg wrote: Which radial master cylinder do you have?
I've the Brembo racing item but I'm pretty sure Mangocrazy has the ones off the later RSV1000
Indeed he does. But if you want to fit Radial master cylinders to a Falco be prepared for hassle. They take up more space fore and aft than the OE versions and need more clearance than is available as standard. I had to completely re-work the handlebars to get mine to fit.

How did you manage with yours, Andy?
Well it's a bit on the tight side Graham and limits rotating the controls further for better alignment with the forearm.
The adjuster screw just presses a bit on the front subframe at full lock (as when the steering lock is on) but it's only just enough to move the lever a few mm - not enough to actually do anything.
Of course my brake master is a bit different to yours. This is mine:
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The clutch master is more fun and games with the mounting of the fast idle control - but do-able.

Yes it's not perfect but I wouldn't go back to the old master cylinders.
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#21 Post by mangocrazy » Sat Jun 15, 2013 7:48 pm

Yes, it was getting the controls at the correct angle to get the ergonomics right that was the big problem for me. I like the levers pointed down at an angle of about 20-30 degrees from horizontal to avoid getting cramp in the wrists and forearms.

The only way really is to post up pictures, as my solution involved 53mm clip-on clamps (as advertised on eBay), with specially fabricated bars. It took me about 18 months to get it sorted but, like you, I wouldn't go back to the OE setup.

As part of what I was doing, I also wanted to reduce the overall bar end to bar end width and raise the bars a small amount. I'm now very, very happy with it, but it took a fair old while to get there.

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#22 Post by D-Rider » Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:22 pm

I'll have to take a look at what you've done. Mine's OK-ish but I'd prefer to rotate them down a bit more.
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#23 Post by mangocrazy » Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:16 pm

I'll try and remember to take a few pics this weekend (bike is in Stafford and I'm in Sheffield at present).

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#24 Post by D-Rider » Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:55 pm

Thanks Graham - no rush :smt002
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Re: What forks?

#25 Post by Falco Frank » Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:24 pm

@Mangocrazy

This is a helpful thread that I'll add to with some extras, firstly: Fork Data:

2001 Showa std Falco / 2002 - RSV Ohlins / 2005 RSV Showa Radial

Top yoke - 53mm / 51mm / 51mm
Bottom - 53 mm / 56mm / 53mm
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I had my 2002 RSV-R forks rebuilt by a good guy in Leeds for my weight, I'm sure he said internals were slightly different from std forks.
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I only did the radial brake on mine - I kinda like it.

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Top yoke after vapour blasting

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Rear guard mount: you can see the slight difference: I just used an oblong of plastic I had laying around
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#26 Post by mangocrazy » Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:51 pm

Excellent stuff - thanks Frank.

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Re: What forks?

#27 Post by mangocrazy » Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:31 pm

Managed to acquire a set of Gen 2 Showa forks and matching radial calipers for £450. This will be an 'over winter' project and will tie in with the bar raising project. The only thing I notice is that the calipers are noticeably heavier than the non-radial types. This will slow the steering down a tad.

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