Can't get on

[Tervueren]

Thanks D.R. If the gsx stand requires a little fettling is it not worth getting an extension welded on to the stock item ? or has anyone already done it
John

[D-Rider]

Thanks D.R. If the gsx stand requires a little fettling is it not worth getting an extension welded on to the stock item ? or has anyone already done it
John

The problems with the standard one are:

• It is made of cheese - a number of people report that they have bent theirs. Certainly could be an issue if you are using this to take your weight as well as the bike when getting on and off.
  
  Its a bit short (particularly if you have a ride-height adjustable shock that is jacked up a bit)
  
  It touches the ground too close to the bike which gives a very narrow footprint (this is probably the worst feature of it)

There are various solutions.

• The USA market sidestand and bracket does the job properly - so you could source one of those (you will have to cut a bit off of the bracket to fit on a European bike)
  
  A VTR stand - apparently this is not a bad fix but I've not actually seen it done. It is more robust and longer but I'm not sure that it broadens the footprint though (anyone able to comment??)
  
  Lengthening the Falco stand (I've seen one with a natty threaded extension that can be adjusted for whatever ride height has been set). This doesn't really adjust the footprint though.
  
  Welding "webbed feet" to the end of the stand.
  
  Fitting a GSXR stand - which does seem to address all of the issues - although it takes some effort.

All have different merits and require different levels of effort.

I went the GSXR route and am glad I did - but that doesn't mean that everyone else should make the same decision.

[EEEP]

I have done the VTR stand converstion and while it made the bike a bit more stable I found that the footprint was relativley unchanged and the stand flexes when weight is applied to the bike. have just done the GSXR stand converstion about 5mins ago and it seems alot better.


EEEP

[Tervueren]

Cheers Lads, looks like I will go down the GSXR route.
EEEP, what year bike did you source yours from.
John

[EEEP]

Mine came of off a 03/04 plate there are loads of them on ebay I found it easy to fit, kept the falco switch and mount drilled out the gsxr mount hole to 12mm, and drilled a 4mm hole for the side stand switch tab to fit into, bent the spring mounting arm on the sidestand to make it fit the springs, mounted and bobs your uncle. Took in all 30mins best mod done so far just need to get out and about to test it - Of to IOM next month so the ferry guys should give it a good test when they strap the bike down

EEEP

[gazuk]

Mine came off a gsxr 1000. Can't remember the year, but I think it was a late one.

I'm a mechanical numpty of the highest order and managed to fit it easy enough. I see you're in West Sussex, if you want I can meet you at Bury Hill sometime and you can check it out.

The issues I got (which funnily enough not many others seemd to encounter ) were:

- Belly pan needed a little chopping off (I think D-Rider had this as well)
- the angle of lean depends greatly on the position of the front wheel
- on full left lock, nice and stable (but the angle doesn't seem much more than the original)
- straignt, unstable like the original
- on full right lock, will fall over

I disconnected the sidestand switch.

[falcomunky]

Must say that mine was a doddle to fit and I still retained the switch as well.
I did a thread over on the old ARSite to illustrate how a numpty fits one!
Here she is;

As you can prolly tell; She is WAY more stable, wether the front is turned right or left.
I didnt need to alter the bellypan and once Id reversed the bolt I can use the sidestand cutout switch, which is nice.
The stand kicks out further than the OE 'effort' and feels better made, (its cast rather than tube), and it also reaches further towards the front of the bike.
I also think its better looking than the Prila item.
Mines off a 2003 Gixer7...
I think.

[Tervueren]

Would this be the one http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... :IT&ih=011

[falcomunky]

Looks like it to me. Heres mine compared to the OE effort, (note the rear spring 'arm' is bent down; I did this to utilise the Falco springs as they are a little long fer the Gixer stand)...

HTH!

[gazuk]

Mr Munky, you forgot to mention your non standard rear shock. Does I believe make a big difference on the angle of dangle

[Aladinsaneuk]

i also used the original falco spring - it returns better

I did alter the angle of the kick down part - nothing beats the use of a birmingham screw driver :)

[D-Rider]

Mr Munky, you forgot to mention your non standard rear shock. Does I believe make a big difference on the angle of dangle

Works well with both.
I'm running the Blue spring Sachs at present - it's fine
Tomorrow the remaining bits arrive to fix my linkages so the Ohlins will go back on. That was also fine when I was using it previously.
The GSXR stand is an improvement whether using the standard shock or one meant for an RSV.

[falcomunky]

Mr Munky, you forgot to mention your non standard rear shock. Does I believe make a big difference on the angle of dangle

K. Its in the pic but I originally fit the stand with the OE blue shock in place and it was also an improvement over the standard, erm, stand.
IMO, the yellow spring is slightly softer than the blue spring, (I still use the Falco links mind), but also longer. The extra length makes the bike less upright and lean to the gear-change side more which is covered by the longer reaching Gixer stand.
Well stable.
I can pretty much park-up anywhere now!
Even on a level surface!