The selfish bitch

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paddyz1 · #1 Post by **paddyz1** » Fri May 14, 2010 11:39 pm

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20100514/te ... 8abb3.html

This really makes my blood boil

She is loaded, has fantastic looks, got plenty of work and most importantly has a 5 year old child.
Yet the selfish bitch wants to do herself in. I have no respect whatsoever for her. The child needs a proper mother

And then some idiot has the audacity to say she is 'strong':smt017

"Noemie is a strong, wonderful girl and of course it's very sad but she's a fighter."

Obviously not..................

Nooj · #2 Post by **Nooj** » Sat May 15, 2010 12:15 am

Being rich and good looking doesn't stop you being mentally ill. We're all just bags of chemicals at the end of the day and when those chemicals get out of ballance odd things happen.

#3 Post by **Kwackerz** » Sat May 15, 2010 8:11 am

She probably just realised who Chelsea were.

paddyz1 · #4 Post by **paddyz1** » Sat May 15, 2010 9:07 am

Sorry that doesn't do it for me. She could have got help (and with her money, probably the best). I have no sympathy for someone who takes their own life. Everything does not revolve around them. Help is available out there. She is obviously too self centred to care about those around her like family members who have to come to terms who a suicide and pick up the pieces.

Nooj wrote:Being rich and good looking doesn't stop you being mentally ill. We're all just bags of chemicals at the end of the day and when those chemicals get out of ballance odd things happen.

Willopotomas · #5 Post by **Willopotomas** » Sat May 15, 2010 9:49 am

Mental health is a very varied and wide subject to place people in to one pigeon hole. Trying to take your own life isn't the best of ideas and we're only told part of the story of this girl. We all know how the press likes to 'glam' these things up!

Until you've seen someone suffer a mental breakdown (which unfortunately i have) you don't really know what to expect.

But I'm not condoning such behaviour. The "Cry for help" suicide bids really do make me angry, as there are people out there who cannot help but want to take their own life. Trust me, I've seen it happen.

Aladinsaneuk · #6 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Sat May 15, 2010 10:14 am

professionally, mental health services stink in this country - and cries for help are often ignored

I cannot and will not judge any one on such events - sorry paddy but the human mind is too individual and fragile to be dealt with by such broad brush strokes

as others have said, we are only seeing a part of the story - and i would suggest that the media should get the fuck out of sensationalist stories like this

Willopotomas · #7 Post by **Willopotomas** » Sat May 15, 2010 10:25 am

rephrase my "cry for help" comment to "attention seeking".. I know what i mean..lol..

Aladinsaneuk · #8 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Sat May 15, 2010 11:32 am

is ok will - i know what you mean lol

when i worked on acute medicine, back in the days before medical admission units, i estimate i would have between 5 and 10 para suicides on friday/saturday night

I estimate that 70 percent were return visitors - so perhaps they were the time wasters... mainly between 14 and 20, and nearly always female
(And yes I am sorry to say that I did often view them like that - I was young at the time!)

the other 30 percent were a different story - invariably they did do lasting harm, or they died
(And for the record paracetemol poisoning is not pleasant.... you may die after ingestion, but generally you die of liver failure 8 to 12 weeks later....)

the thing that stuck in my mind at the time was that these people did not have any back up - if lucky they may have been offered a psychiatrist.... but they, in the main, refused to get involved untill the person was medically fit - ie, discharged in to the community were they were not followed up in terms of mental health.

mental health in this country stinks and is a disgrace - it will remain that way until we as a society are more open about such things

at this time at least 30 percent of the users of this forum will be suffering from a mental health illness - may be as simple as a stress related depression, but there is a high likelihood that one of us is taking anti depressants.... and i say at least one - likely to be higher

(and this little rant was not aimed at anyone - its just that very occasionally I do speak about health related issues!)

#9 Post by **Kwackerz** » Sat May 15, 2010 11:41 am

I know all about the mental health and it's lack of help for sufferers..
Mate of mine tried topping herself with an overdose last week while i was on exercise. talked her into giving her BF the mobile to phone the ambulance, then phoned back and confirmed he had done it. Then sat there at2 in the morning talking to her til the medics arrived.
Second time she's tried it, cry for help mainly, however she went in, they checked vital signs then released her straight away. no referrals to MH or anything. It sucks.
Luckily my threat of killing her BF made him start to be proactive about her problems and she's staying with us for a few days so we can give her some thinking space and normality.
I hate it as her Social Worker is crap, her Doctor doesnt listen and nobody seems to care.

Aladinsaneuk · #10 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Sat May 15, 2010 11:55 am

having just got off the phone to kwackerz, and please all be aware that ANYONE can refer some one to a mental health team

if you have concerns about someones mental health, then call NHS direct 0845 4647

paddyz1 · #11 Post by **paddyz1** » Sat May 15, 2010 12:39 pm

I knew a girl with 2 young children (i had asked her out some years before). She jumped off a balcony and did not survive.
I am not going any further than that.

Aladinsaneuk · #12 Post by **Aladinsaneuk** » Sat May 15, 2010 2:16 pm

/nod paddy

I hear where you are coming from and sorry

the problem is our media - they are a bunch of tossers in the main - I know, with where you come from, that it is highly unlikely that you read the Sun - but i think all the tabloids are just the same... the journalists really should think about their actions a little more

fastasfcuk · #13 Post by **fastasfcuk** » Sat May 15, 2010 4:54 pm

as alad say's mental health services are of no use at all,not to me any way.they only have a limited time to spend with you then your on your own.i am on anti depresants and not ashamed to say so and in the early days did'nt want to live any more, even to the point of planing it.but it's no answer and would have distroyed my daughter, karen and family. when you finally get through the shit somthing the other side that you can't forsee will come along and lift you. my grandson and my daughters wedding will do for now.

tyrekicker · #14 Post by **tyrekicker** » Sat May 15, 2010 5:38 pm

I agree with fastasfcuk, depression is seriously misundertood,to understand or even appreciate what it is like you either have to go through, witness it or have a very open mind. Like most of us I would have agreed with the fact that attempting to take your life is for cowards and losers, that is no longer my view and I had to fall a very long way to appreciate the devistation of mental illness.
How low must you be to put a rope around your neck and kick away the stool, or walk in front of an express train!!
I think when you have reached that point you no longer need to have a 'cry for help' help is the last thing you want and the signs for help would have been there if those around cared enough to look.

Phew we need bike fun now.

MartDude · #15 Post by **MartDude** » Sat May 15, 2010 6:15 pm

I second Fastasfcuk & Tyrekicker's comments. Once you're in the grip of depression, not only do you feel totally isolated, to a degree you really are - you're offered antidepressants, some of which can make your feelings worse, without much monitoring. 'Supportive' comments from well-meaning associates et al sometimes only serve to reinforce the sense of isolation from 'normal' society - you feel you're in Niflheim (Norse hell) - a place of utter cold, darkness, fog, desolation and isolation. And once you've been there, you never forget it. If you haven't been there, you can't comprehend what it's like.