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Hey Myrrk.

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:01 pm
by Samray

Re: Hey Myrrk.

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:12 pm
by D-Rider
Samray wrote:They heard bout you. :smt002
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7200066.stm
This has got to be a complete load of b@~~@x.
Don't think I've ever known anyone that hasn't paid their tax (other than forgetting to renew for a few weeks).

Of course there will be some .... but nearly half of us? You've got to be kidding!

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:20 pm
by Samray
I found it totally unbelievable. i.e. I don't believe it.
Fks where they fekked up the stats but it must include track bikes, race bikes, sorned bikes, mini-motos and every bike in a showroom I should think. :smt017

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:02 pm
by Kwackerz
What peeves me off morethan anything..apart from the complete cobblers those figures can be clearly seen to be..

Is that the BBC dont credit the reporter/writer of the article.

I want Blood.

NOW

:smt013 :smt013 :smt013
Some snivelling wretch has sat there and compiled that article out of snippets of information from various sources at various times, omitting various crucial figures.

We've had loads of floods in 2006. 40% Unregistered? How many of those bikes were underwater and sorned? How many underwater and still trying to square away the damn paperwork..that got washed away..with the DVLA. How many were indeed racebikes (sorned).. How many were bikers who didnt fancy riding in the wet weather of last year so sorned their bikes? How many faced hardship cos of the bloody government and their various moneymaking schemes that have skinted everyone, so Sorned their bikes? How many were Squaddies who couldnt register, or had sorned their bikes while theyre away sorting out the government's shite for them in sandy places. What percentage was just complete fabrication?

:smt084 Writing to my MP in a min. Want answers.

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:15 pm
by D-Rider
Posted this one up on the Coventry Bikers Forum.

The views there are:

A) Disbelief

B) Figures will include scooter riding chavs that haven't taxed (OK so chavs have their issues but there is a bit of a chav-hate tarring-all-with-same brush thing ongoing on that forum)

C) People having second bikes or bikes bought for spares for which SORNs have not been renewed

BTW how do these SORN things work? Do I need one for my 400/4 ? (maybe I'm contributing to the figures). I've had the bike since 1977 and it has been off the road since before SORNs were introduced. I've never given it a second thought.

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:16 pm
by Kwackerz
I think you'll find you need to but wont get a penalty. I had the same when it first started, with a FIAT car.. Actually i think you'll have trouble getting it on the road again as they had a purge on new v5's . Old ones that havent had road tax, etc registered against them for a while got dropped off the system..I think... not sure.. remember Ebayers starting to state whether they had old or new V5 when they came in..

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:55 pm
by Samray
When I found that report it was already making news all round the world, literally, that 1/2 of Brit bikers didn't tax em. :smt013

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:44 pm
by Samray
From further investigation it seems it is a resurrected story from 6 months back and those figures were projected from a small sample taken somewhere, sometime, and reinvented to provide the said stats.
The DVLA sent people out to take down the registration number of every passing vehicle and they then checked this against the tax database. This yielded a figure of 16 per cent evasion for bikes. They then ran this through a computer model working on the assumption that untaxed bikes are ridden less and arrived at a figure of 38 per cent.
http://www.longrider.co.uk/blog/2007/09 ... tted-dvla/

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 9:42 pm
by snapdragon
Samray wrote:From further investigation it seems it is a resurrected story from 6 months back and those figures were projected from a small sample taken somewhere, sometime, and reinvented to provide the said stats.
The DVLA sent people out to take down the registration number of every passing vehicle and they then checked this against the tax database. This yielded a figure of 16 per cent evasion for bikes. They then ran this through a computer model working on the assumption that untaxed bikes are ridden less and arrived at a figure of 38 per cent.
http://www.longrider.co.uk/blog/2007/09 ... tted-dvla/
:smt005 mickey mouse bloody organisation couldnt do the deed in a brothel

so 16% - right - out of how many two wheeled vehicles? 8? 10? 20? Did they write it down correctly - I can just imagine 'em - "ABC 12 ? <looks again-vehicle has gone> err was that a six or an eight? ah well I'll put nine it won't matter"
and which road ? the back street behind their office? motorway? or tesc@s carpark?

what a total crock

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:32 pm
by graham0071
I own up!! it woz me that rode round the same block six times on an un-taxed bike that I was just trying to get right for the M.O.T. I remember seeing the bloke with the clip board....sorry!!

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:44 pm
by Samray
:smt003

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:45 pm
by graham0071
P.S. Snapdragon, you are amazing.. the block I was riding round was the back street behind their offices.....in ...err Swansea...ermm,,, wot woz I doing there?? maybe it wozn't me!!.. delete this quick you idiot..! Too late!! made me look a total plonker again! .

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:02 pm
by Myrkk
LOL Samray......the bike is SORN'd honest guv :smt002 It's the car that wasn't taxed. And it was all the post offices fault...honest :smt003



graham0071 wrote:P.S. Snapdragon, you are amazing.. the block I was riding round was the back street behind their offices.....in ...err Swansea...ermm,,, wot woz I doing there?? maybe it wozn't me!!.. delete this quick you idiot..! Too late!! made me look a total plonker again! .
Yep, especially 'cause there isn't a back street around either of their offices in Swansea :smt002

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:35 pm
by graham0071
:smt009 :smt009 :smt009 :smt009 :smt009 :smt112 :smt112 :smt112 :smt112 :smt112 :smt112 :smt112

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:40 pm
by Pierre
I heard it on the radio. The funny part was they sent a reporter down to the bike park and checked 4 bikes - all taxed. Then they interviewed a biker who just pulled up - he was also taxed.

So she checked 5 bikes and 5 were taxed. Interview continued " and so anyway, the figures show 4 out of 10 bikes arent paying road tax" WTF 5/5 YOU IDIOT BINT