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EU constitution petition

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:57 am
by Gio

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:00 am
by fastasfcuk
done,i do'nt think we will get one though,b-st---'- :smt013

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 9:30 am
by Samray
This petition is 1800% bigger, and has Maggie's backing. :smt017
Petition

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 9:46 am
by Gio
Samray wrote:This petition is 1800% bigger, and has Maggie's backing. :smt017
Petition
Now that she's come out and said it thats it stuffed, stupid Sun :smt018

Oh and 1800 times bigger, crap, it can't make up its mind how many
ALMOST 40,000 Sun readers last night demanded a say on the rejigged EU Constitution.

An overwhelming 98 PER CENT of those answering our battle cry backed the campaign for a referendum on giving away British power.

In our You The Jury poll, 26,471 phoned the YES line in favour of having a vote while only 622 voted NO.

Meanwhile, 12,142 signed our online petition.
12,000 signatories as aginst the official sites 20,000

Its signatures you want not some dreamed up number by a crap newspaper. :smt013

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:29 am
by Samray
more than 18,000 signed our online petition.
Signatures | Total: 955
Bit early to have been at the bottle Gio. :smt003

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 5:02 pm
by D-Rider
Nope - don't want a referendum on this one. It's unlikely to deliver a properly thought through opinion - just a reflection of the one-sided views of the tabloid press.

I'd far sooner trust this to our elected representatives - again it will probably not be as well considered as it should be but far more so than the alternative.

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 5:54 pm
by fastasfcuk
D-Rider wrote:Nope - don't want a referendum on this one. It's unlikely to deliver a properly thought through opinion - just a reflection of the one-sided views of the tabloid press.

I'd far sooner trust this to our elected representatives - again it will probably not be as well considered as it should be but far more so than the alternative.
you trust mp's. :smt017

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 6:59 pm
by D-Rider
fastasfcuk wrote:
D-Rider wrote:Nope - don't want a referendum on this one. It's unlikely to deliver a properly thought through opinion - just a reflection of the one-sided views of the tabloid press.

I'd far sooner trust this to our elected representatives - again it will probably not be as well considered as it should be but far more so than the alternative.
you trust mp's. :smt017
I didn't say that - but I trust them more than the tabloid press and the implicit trust that a large proportion of the population put in everything they read.

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 7:04 pm
by Samray
I trust em to look after their own gravy train, at our expense. :smt012

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 12:06 pm
by Gio
Samray wrote:I trust em to look after their own gravy train, at our expense. :smt012
I'd agree with that.

The only good politician is a bent politician (well according to them).

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 5:36 pm
by fastasfcuk
it's not a question of takeing what the press says as gospel,this thing was buried by the french and the dutch so we should'nt have to be begging for a vote,to bring it back under another name is where they've lost my trust.

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 8:15 pm
by Nooj
Is this for or against going into Europe full time??

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:28 am
by lazarus
no I dont want a vote on it - or to be accurate, I dont want Joe Public to have a vote on it. Because Joe Public wont read the text of the Treaty, wont think it through, and will vote based on blind prejudice and mis-information fed to him by the likes of the Daily Mail.

We live in a representative democrasy - we elect MPs to vote as they thin fit on our behalf. You might or might not think they do a bad job, but at least most of them are interested enough in politics to learn what its all about.

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 11:41 am
by Samray
You have as little faith in Joe Public as the politicians do Lazarus.
The difference is that Joe Public put them there.



I must check the various rags' circulation figures. :smt017

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 3:17 pm
by Nooj
We live in a representative democrasy
Nope, we live in a dictatorship, we the citizens have no say at all over what laws are passed, once a government is placed in power it can do whatever the hell it likes and we just have to sit and take it. The only time this couuntry is a true democracy is when we're voting in a general election and as soon as the votes are counted and a government appointed we go back to being in a dictatorship again.

Lazarus is right, the majority of people who would vote on this given the choice would be miss-informed half-wits who believe what they read in the papers.