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EU constitution petition
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:57 am
by Gio
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:00 am
by fastasfcuk
done,i do'nt think we will get one though,b-st---'-

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 9:30 am
by Samray
This petition is 1800% bigger, and has Maggie's backing.
Petition
Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 9:46 am
by Gio
Samray wrote:This petition is 1800% bigger, and has Maggie's backing.
Petition
Now that she's come out and said it thats it stuffed, stupid Sun
Oh and 1800 times bigger, crap, it can't make up its mind how many
ALMOST 40,000 Sun readers last night demanded a say on the rejigged EU Constitution.
An overwhelming 98 PER CENT of those answering our battle cry backed the campaign for a referendum on giving away British power.
In our You The Jury poll, 26,471 phoned the YES line in favour of having a vote while only 622 voted NO.
Meanwhile, 12,142 signed our online petition.
12,000 signatories as aginst the official sites 20,000
Its signatures you want not some dreamed up number by a crap newspaper.

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:29 am
by Samray
more than 18,000 signed our online petition.
Signatures | Total: 955
Bit early to have been at the bottle Gio.

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 5:02 pm
by D-Rider
Nope - don't want a referendum on this one. It's unlikely to deliver a properly thought through opinion - just a reflection of the one-sided views of the tabloid press.
I'd far sooner trust this to our elected representatives - again it will probably not be as well considered as it should be but far more so than the alternative.
Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 5:54 pm
by fastasfcuk
D-Rider wrote:Nope - don't want a referendum on this one. It's unlikely to deliver a properly thought through opinion - just a reflection of the one-sided views of the tabloid press.
I'd far sooner trust this to our elected representatives - again it will probably not be as well considered as it should be but far more so than the alternative.
you trust mp's.

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 6:59 pm
by D-Rider
fastasfcuk wrote:D-Rider wrote:Nope - don't want a referendum on this one. It's unlikely to deliver a properly thought through opinion - just a reflection of the one-sided views of the tabloid press.
I'd far sooner trust this to our elected representatives - again it will probably not be as well considered as it should be but far more so than the alternative.
you trust mp's.

I didn't say that - but I trust them more than the tabloid press and the implicit trust that a large proportion of the population put in everything they read.
Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 7:04 pm
by Samray
I trust em to look after their own gravy train, at our expense.

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 12:06 pm
by Gio
Samray wrote:I trust em to look after their own gravy train, at our expense.

I'd agree with that.
The only good politician is a bent politician (well according to them).
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 5:36 pm
by fastasfcuk
it's not a question of takeing what the press says as gospel,this thing was buried by the french and the dutch so we should'nt have to be begging for a vote,to bring it back under another name is where they've lost my trust.
Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 8:15 pm
by Nooj
Is this for or against going into Europe full time??
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:28 am
by lazarus
no I dont want a vote on it - or to be accurate, I dont want Joe Public to have a vote on it. Because Joe Public wont read the text of the Treaty, wont think it through, and will vote based on blind prejudice and mis-information fed to him by the likes of the Daily Mail.
We live in a representative democrasy - we elect MPs to vote as they thin fit on our behalf. You might or might not think they do a bad job, but at least most of them are interested enough in politics to learn what its all about.
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 11:41 am
by Samray
You have as little faith in Joe Public as the politicians do Lazarus.
The difference is that Joe Public put them there.
I must check the various rags' circulation figures.

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 3:17 pm
by Nooj
We live in a representative democrasy
Nope, we live in a dictatorship, we the citizens have no say at all over what laws are passed, once a government is placed in power it can do whatever the hell it likes and we just have to sit and take it. The only time this couuntry is a true democracy is when we're voting in a general election and as soon as the votes are counted and a government appointed we go back to being in a dictatorship again.
Lazarus is right, the majority of people who would vote on this given the choice would be miss-informed half-wits who believe what they read in the papers.