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Back....AGAIN!!!
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:38 pm
by AJFalco
Hi all, did ya miss me
Just bought another Falco as I can't get used to inline fours anymore (as in EVER again)
Quick question, I have a lovely pair of Ohlins front forks sitting on my garage shelf from a Gen1 Tuono. What will I need to do to make them fit the Falco?
Is it yokes and other bits or is there an easy option?
V-Twins, just can't get them out of your system once they're in there...
Bit like 750 Turbos. On my 5th one of them now too
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:02 pm
by mangocrazy
From memory the fork diameter wher they clamp in the yokes is 1mm smaller than the Falco Showa and Marzocchi forks. You could shim them, but it has the air of bodge-ness about it. Done properly it should be fine, but I'd be on the lookout for some yokes.
I'm sure someone who has actually done the conversion (like Andy/D-Rider) will be along shortly to confirm or deny.
And welcome back!
Re: Back....AGAIN!!!
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:33 pm
by D-Rider
AJFalco wrote:Back Again
There goes the neighbourhood.
(welcome back)
Yes for Ohlins forks you need a set of ohlins yokes as the fork diameters are different
As I posted previously:
D-Rider wrote:
Mazocchi and Showa are 53mm top and bottom
Ohlins are 51mm top and 56mm bottom
Also, if you get ohlins RSV yokes, make sure top and bottom both come from the same generation of bikes as the offset is different on the Gen1 compared to the Gen II
..... and .....
D-Rider wrote:Yep, you need forks and yokes as the ohlins are different diameters to the showa/marzocchi forks.
The other thing you need is different bolts to attach the callipers. The carriers on the marzocchi/showa forks use flanged bolts that sit proud but the ones on the ohlins forks are recessed.
The other thing you need to do is to shim the Falco clipons to fit the forks (unless you are fitting the lower clipons from the Mille R)
Ohlins forks certainly work on the Falco and improve it a bit but if you are hoping for the sort of improvement you get from fitting the ohlins shock, you will be a bit disappointed - that said, they are an improvement.
Should you ever decide you want to fit the yokes from the RSVR Factory (Gen II), you will need to fit them as a set and not mix top yoke from a Gen I with a bottom yoke from a Gen II or vice versa. Both work but have different offsets.
..... and ....
D-Rider wrote:
IF you use the yokes from a GenII RSVR-Factory then you will find that the steering lock no longer aligns with the hole and the pin is not long enough to engage in the hole once you have made it line up.
Of course both of these things are solvable - I've done so on my Falco with Ohlins forks and GenII RSVR-Factory yokes.
You need some spacers to get the alignment right (a stack of washers does the job) and you need to lengthen the steering lock pin (drill the pin, tap it and screw in a bolt with a tall enough head to engage in the hole - loctite it in place of course).
Easy peasy
Gen1 yokes on ohlins forks and there is no issue at all - the steering lock fits fine.
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:05 pm
by mangocrazy
Just as well an adult came along, then...
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:45 pm
by AJFalco
Thanks for that guys. Always a font of knowledge on here
Now where to find some Gen1 Mille yokes
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:33 am
by D-Rider
mangocrazy wrote:Just as well an adult came along, then...
They did - but I deleted their post and stuck up my nonsense
CB1000MEH
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:26 am
by KitchenSync
I took a 2018 CB1000R out for a test last week. Just for something to do. Super smooth - mentally fast - couldn't get my head around the quick shifter.
It was really quite dull sat on top of it. If I had £12k I'd be wondering if I'd done the right thing by the weekend.
Maybe I'm getting old (I am) but it was so nice getting back on the Futura afterwards. ABS would be nice though.
Re: CB1000MEH
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:49 pm
by fatboy
KitchenSync wrote:I took a 2018 CB1000R out for a test last week. Just for something to do. Super smooth - mentally fast - couldn't get my head around the quick shifter.
It was really quite dull sat on top of it. If I had £12k I'd be wondering if I'd done the right thing by the weekend.
Maybe I'm getting old (I am) but it was so nice getting back on the Futura afterwards. ABS would be nice though.
Modern Japanese in line 4's, fast,well engineered, forgiving handling, you could say the complete package, but when you get used to the speed there is nothing interesting left, predictable and well, dull, devoid of soul.
Had you bought that one, the only difference between that one and any other one would be colour, dull
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:21 pm
by Falcopops
have a look at the mounting holes for the brake calipers, I think the Ohlins have recessed holes that your existing bolts won't work with, so you'll need cap head bolts to mount the brakes.
Also familiarise yourself with the reduced torque required at the triples and axle pinch bolts
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:22 pm
by Falcopops
have a look at the mounting holes for the brake calipers, I think the Ohlins have recessed holes that your existing bolts won't work with, so you'll need cap head bolts to mount the brakes.
Also familiarise yourself with the reduced torque required at the triples and axle pinch bolts
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:54 pm
by Gio
So good he posted it twice
