A recent fatal bike crash case that may be of interest

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Cathcart · #31 Post by **Cathcart** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:18 pm

Fair enough, it is a bit of a sweeping statement with no hard evidence. Although, it certainly made me ride different and certainly safer, although it wouldn't have been hard. Myself and a few mates have discussed this before and as far as our discussions go its a sure fire way to learn respect for a bike and that you don't bounce as well as you previously thought.

I can see your angle though that it is a sweeping statement but I do firmly believe in it.

As far as safely engineering it... Would you still learn if you knew it was safe? But I know what you mean. I was riding like a total twat in he middle of town when I crashed. Although, the woman was oncoming and did cross my lane to turn right, but I was speeding. Court found in favour of her...

Dalemac · #32 Post by **Dalemac** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:59 am

I guess it is all down to attitudes. If you have an accident or an off, and you acknowledge that you had some level of accountability then you will probably be able to learn from your mistake.

First bike i had was a ybr125. It had no power and crappy, skinny tyres. I fell of it 5 times in total, all at low speed (it wasn't capable of anything else!). some of the falls were my fault, one time I panicked before a very sharp corner, braked, stopped just off the road and then fell off. Looking back now it was funny, but i will never go barrelling towards corners which I don't know anymore. The other times I fell off were in the wet.

The GPZ500, which I rode for two years (and has been in a garage ever since), I never dropped. It was nice having a decent amount of power, and tyres which were wider than my wrist.

The falco I only dropped once, and that was riding in the snow diagonally down an off camber car park to get to my garage in student accommodation. The back just swapped ends with the front.

Indeed it would have been far better to learn about how to ride in different conditions but at the time I couldn't afford any advanced training such as IAM courses (and still can't now).

I have now resolved to the fact that the falco is a far more capable bike than I am a rider, so I treat it with respect.

greybika · #33 Post by **greybika** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:51 pm

I think that the fact that he had the arrogance to appeal his sentence after he had killed somebody.....and admitted it, is enough to disqualify him for life and lock him up for a few years!! Regardless of his age.

#34 Post by **mangocrazy** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:02 pm

greybika wrote:I think that the fact that he had the arrogance to appeal his sentence after he had killed somebody.....and admitted it, is enough to disqualify him for life and lock him up for a few years!! Regardless of his age.

Agreed. That's the most distasteful part of the whole affair.

BikerGran · #35 Post by **BikerGran** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:49 pm

Exactly what I thought!