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#16 Post by fastasfcuk » Tue May 04, 2010 10:12 pm

BikerGran wrote:I'm another that's voting UKIP cos I want my country back. Doesn't really matter what party is in government while we are dictated to by a lot of unelected bureaucrats on the continent.
who'd have thaught that mr and mrs kinnock whould have had a say in this country's policies. :smt013

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#17 Post by Willopotomas » Tue May 04, 2010 11:05 pm

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It'll be UKIP for me too, but they're not who I really want to vote for. have a look at this party.

http://www.voteenglish.org/

The English Democrats. Not right, Not left, Just English.

The candidates they're fielding have had to pay £1100 out of their own pockets for the election entry fee and cost of leaflets, rosettes etc. They're not huge, but have English values at their core. All party members are ordinary members of the public, like you and me, who are fed up of seeing England suffer while Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland prosper off our backs. Look up the Barnet Formula and also the Lothian Question. Some eye-opening stuff.

So, If they're on your ballot paper on Thursday, do yourself and your country a favour (if in England, obviously) by voting English Democrats.

Have a read of their website and at their manifesto. Also, if you're on Facebook, they have Facebook group http://www.facebook.com/www.EngDem.org

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That was a party election broadcast by the Willopotomas. :smt003
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#18 Post by AJFalco » Wed May 05, 2010 12:32 pm

Looks like the way to go. If it wasn't for their racist policys, I would go BNP. It's not the foreigners who are the problem it's the EU and the PC brigade.
Why can't we have pride in our own country?
Why is it unacceptable to fly the George cross or Union flag?
Who are these people who find it offensive?

About time we stood up to this Euro bollox and take our country back! :smt013

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No idea who to vote for.

#19 Post by Nooj » Wed May 05, 2010 2:45 pm

Which party is going to:

help small businesses by not screwing them into the ground financially and revoking the 'guilty until proven innocent' powers of the inland revenue?

Make riding a bike over here as enjoyable as it is in the rest of western Europe?

Open our arms to immigrants who want to work, while closing the doors on natives who want to freeload off the state?

Remove gods (any of them) from politics and schools, keeping organised religion within the confines of the church and the home?

Introduce sex education as soon as kids start asking questions about it to change the stupid national attitude towards it and end countless potential schoolgirl pregnancies?

Reintroduce the dog license?

Make the banks pay back all of our money that they used to bail themselves out of their horrendous fuck ups with?

Introduce tax credits for employers who encourage people who can work from home to do so to help cut pollution and congestion?

Take perishable freight off the roads and put it back onto the rails?

Take non-perishable freight off the roads and put it back on the canals?

Abolish road tax and put petrol tax and motoring fine revenue exclusively back into the road, rail and canal networks?

Legalise cannabis for medical research?

Fine road users for bad lane discipline, failure to signal at junctions and tailgating?

Introduce compulsary re-testing for driving licences every three years?

Let parents and teachers be able to smack naughty children again?

Introduce a bill so if someone violates your human rights by assault, burglary etc. they loose all of their human rights and are thrown in jail to be used as free labour to fund the running of the country for the rest of us, not to deal drugs and play x-box all day?

Make protesting legal again?

Put decisions that affect the public to a public vote?

Scrap silly Police targets and end pointless bureaucracy in the NHS, let Plod and the nurses do their proper jobs again?

Abolish the TV license, make it all pay-per-view, but keep it affordable?
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#20 Post by mangocrazy » Wed May 05, 2010 2:53 pm

Nice one Nooj. I don't think there's a single item on that list that I disagree with, and most of which I'm in total agreement with.

Ever thought of starting a political party? :smt003

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#21 Post by Samray » Wed May 05, 2010 3:11 pm

:smt023
but I'd want to bring back capital and corporal punishment too, and switch off unnecessary streetlights. :smt003
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#22 Post by Willopotomas » Wed May 05, 2010 4:09 pm

Nooj.. Join the ED.. you know it makes sense. :smt004
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#23 Post by MartDude » Wed May 05, 2010 6:57 pm

Willopotomas wrote:Nooj.. Join the ED.. you know it makes sense. :smt004
Had a quick look at that link last night, & have been thinking about it today.
At first glance it all looks very reasonable. However, on consideration, it's not dissimilar to to some of the pronouncements of the National Socialist Party in the 1920's - e.g. restoration of national pride, looking back at past achievements, identification of a bete noir (Jews/immigrants) on which to hang grievances, idealisation of certain, 'acceptable', societal models. That was all vey well, until the right-wing faction (led by Hitler) accepted the funding, and thereby influence, of prominent wealthy grops (industrialists, landowners), helping them to power. The party's leftish, less sociopathic, wing, led mainly by Gregor & Otto Strasser, was soon sidelined, and more or less eliminated in the Kristallnacht of 1934.

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#24 Post by Willopotomas » Wed May 05, 2010 7:10 pm

I think you're getting the ED confused with the BNP. The ED want an English parliament for England.. Much the same as Scotland has it's own along with the Welsh and N.Irish assemblies. It's about playing fair. They're not xenophobic in any sense. They have pretty good policy's on everything.. Some of it is much the same as Australia and Canada. Tell me how the Barnet Formula is fair.. And also, where this topic started, tell me how unregulated banks and capitalism is fair?

I WILL NOT support ANY racist party or racially motivated movements. I'm English, and am proud to be English. I just don't want it to be the crime it is at the moment.
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#25 Post by HisNibbs » Wed May 05, 2010 7:38 pm

I'm English and happy to be so but proud of it, I'm not. There are some things I've done I suppose I might take pride in but I'm not taking pride by assosiation with some general mass called the English.

Pride is very close to arrogance especialy when it isn't earnt.
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#26 Post by Willopotomas » Wed May 05, 2010 7:59 pm

Nothing arrogant about being proud of my heritage. Each to their own.. which is what i love about this little rock. :smt001
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#27 Post by Aladinsaneuk » Wed May 05, 2010 8:37 pm

wow

i am english, and want the right to be proud to be english

i also believe in equality....

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#28 Post by fastasfcuk » Wed May 05, 2010 9:19 pm

i think were missing the point, not one of the political party's can do any thing about our problems like imigration, human rights which only protects those that do'nt deserve protecting, because their hands are tied behind their backs by europe. so little will change.
brown really makes me want to vommit when he brags about the points system.who in their right minds out side of europe like austailia, canada and new zealand would want to come and live here.

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#29 Post by AJFalco » Wed May 05, 2010 10:56 pm

fastasfcuk wrote:i think were missing the point, not one of the political party's can do any thing about our problems like imigration, human rights which only protects those that do'nt deserve protecting, because their hands are tied behind their backs by europe. so little will change.
brown really makes me want to vommit when he brags about the points system.who in their right minds out side of europe like austailia, canada and new zealand would want to come and live here.


Er, just about everyone from the former USSR, most Asian countries and the third world. We offer it all to those who least deserve it. Look at the way illegals get to France and live rough for months in the hope of hiding on a truck bound for here. Why don't they stay in France?

Sorry, but we need to close our borders, kick out people who have sneaked in and stop paying the scroungers (including our own)

And we must tell Europe to FU** off. If it wasn't for us, they would be under German rule.
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#30 Post by D-Rider » Wed May 05, 2010 11:18 pm

Well, that's one opinion ..............
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