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fastasfcuk · #16 Post by **fastasfcuk** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 12:18 pm

i took all those cuttings from mcn to court with me including the one where the manufactures admitted in crown court that they can be innacurate, but i was not allowed to submit them,i feel more angry today when i sit back and think about what went on around me,one of the team of three magistates was questioning the officer about his setting up duties and had the officer fumbling,so the prosecution had him removed for prejudgeing the case and when i was being questioned the prosecution asked me how i knew i was'nt breaking the speed limit so i replied that i looked at my speedo and read 27 mph, how do you know that your speed did'nt increase after you looked at your speedo?simple answer, i kept checking my speed so that i did'nt break the speed limit. to my amazement he accused me of dangeress driving. what chance of you got.

HowardQ · #17 Post by **HowardQ** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 12:33 pm

You have one chance, just accept you are guilty as they tell you and keep bloody quiet, otherwise will they shaft you for even more money. Doesn't matter if you can prove it's complete bollocks, you are not allowed to question authority.
It's what we call democracy and human rights when we go on about other countries who don't have the same "standards" that we do.
Seriously it's all very sad, how did we get here?

Gio · #18 Post by **Gio** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 1:32 pm

fastasfcuk wrote:i took all those cuttings from mcn to court with me including the one where the manufactures admitted in crown court that they can be innacurate, but i was not allowed to submit them,i feel more angry today when i sit back and think about what went on around me,one of the team of three magistates was questioning the officer about his setting up duties and had the officer fumbling,so the prosecution had him removed for prejudgeing the case and when i was being questioned the prosecution asked me how i knew i was'nt breaking the speed limit so i replied that i looked at my speedo and read 27 mph, how do you know that your speed did'nt increase after you looked at your speedo?simple answer, i kept checking my speed so that i did'nt break the speed limit. to my amazement he accused me of dangeress driving. what chance of you got.

Quite obviously if the prosecutor drives he never checks his speed or mirrors, instead he's the dangerous idiot who blunders from lane to lane causing accidents.

I'd appeal even more vigorously now. fecking twats.

D-Rider · #19 Post by **D-Rider** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:24 pm

Free the Mansfield One !

Justice for Bikers (and other road users come to that).

fastasfcuk · #20 Post by **fastasfcuk** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:44 pm

D-Rider wrote:Free the Mansfield One !

Justice for Bikers (and other road users come to that).

nice one.

fastrider · #21 Post by **fastrider** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:27 pm

FF, sorry to hear your result, I feel for ya.

Trying to "beat the system" even if you are NOT guilty is nigh on impossible these days. The law is an ASS and I will would say that their faces too.

They don't want to listen to reason as we are a pest to be dispatched with, never to be seen again. Makes my blood boil every time I think about their soddin high and mighty attitudes.

Copper who did me several years back didn't even get out of his car!!!
He becconed me over to get in, gave me the info, blah blah blah, see ya in court. Two months down line, nothing heard, sent off to nether far away lands for 4mths. Start thinking I might not get summoned, then wife rings
and bang, see you in Notts court when you get back. Yea I was over the limit - no probs with it, but his attitude just piddled me right off. Lawyer was a young lad and crap!!!

If you were under the limit, then its def worth a fight, only thing is, could you afford it.... coz if you lose it'l cost again. Something to mull over.

Myrkk · #22 Post by **Myrkk** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:30 pm

I know coppers only see the bad in people but it should be part of their training to remain objective..... from what I've seen they don't and can't........ you're guilty before you are innocent.

BikerGran · #23 Post by **BikerGran** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:04 pm

A lorry driver gone done by a speed camera near here, he proved from the photos that he was only doing 25 and it was accepted - could you not do that? Anyway the camera peeps claimed it was something to do with reflections from a bus stop shelter just ahead of the camera that caused the problem. The camera's still in the same place tho, and so is the bus stop. I wonder how many other poor sods just pay up? I've seen this one flash the vehicle ahead when I'm following at the same speed which appears to be under the 30 limi too.