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U Tag ICE
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 6:07 pm
by Kwackerz
http://www.utagice.com
A USB penstick in case of emergency ID tag. I know it's been mentioned on here before, but always worth another plug, if for no other reason than to get people thinking.
The software on the tag is shown here:
http://www.utagice.com/software.html
Forgive me for saying, but surely that is a waste of bloody time. If you need fast medical help theyre not going to faff about finding a computer that they can plug a USB stick into (Hospital ones are networked and usually like the MOD ones, you cant simply plug a USB stick in in case of virusing the network) and for 30 quid, I'd probably sack it and plonk for one of those little dog tags you can roll a bit of paper up in, for £1.60.
http://www.petsathome.com/shop/dog-coll ... ncol-14413
or is that just thinking...?
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 8:08 pm
by Nooj
Paramedics and ambulances carry PDA's or laptops now so a USB stick is ideal.
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 10:21 pm
by D-Rider
Looks pretty pointless to me - looking at what information it's got.
I mean:
Name and address - who cares where I live - just fix me .... and if you do eventually want to know then my vehicle registration will quickly reveal most of this or if I'm carrying my wallet, a bank card or business card will get the info .... but it's not urgent ...
Medical insurance - WTF ... Don't have it and shouldn't stop them mending me.
Emergency contacts - well the most important contact in an emergency is anyone who can fix me
Medical Info, well I don't know of any allergies, I'm not on any medication (other than over the counter painkillers for all the bl@@dy headaches) and they will see that my blood type is RED from wherever it is leaking out of me (and I've no idea what it is other than red .... I thought they could detect more precisely themselves)
So what's on there seems to be fairly useless and what use it does have is only relevant in the unlikely event of me needing medical assistance and being completely incapable of telling them this information myself.
.... and let's face it, if I did have one of these, what are the chances I would remember to take it with me when I went out? .... it would probably be sat on the worktop in the kitchen and I'd remember it was there at the same moment I realise that (yet again) I've forgotten my ear plugs and they are sat on the work top next to it ...
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 10:47 pm
by Kwackerz
I suppose it may have it's uses. I suppose someone with a medical condition may find use for it for recording special requirements, but there are already tags for that, but I personally would find the only use the outside casing of it, to put in big letters 'O Negative' so they know my blood group straight away.
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 10:56 pm
by D-Rider
Perhaps Nursie will be along in a while to explain why we should all have one

Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 6:27 am
by Aladinsaneuk
/shrug
in an emergency setting, poncing around with a usb stick is fairly low down on the list of priorities...
first 15 minutes is all about getting the patient stable, air going into lungs and blood circulating to the brain
blood group matters not one jot - at an accident scene, a plasma expander can be used - and is safe for the god bothering sects who do not allow blood products so all is cool
in A&E universal blood will be given - O Rh - hence why that is so valuable
once stable then you may ponce around looking at shit....
far simpler, and easier solution is ICE
pretty much all of us carry a mobile phone - so, make a new contact called ICE - In Case of Emergency and save the wife/husbands etc details there
http://www.cnhw.co.uk/ice.cfm has some info and that is where people will start to look
oh - and people, don't pin lock your phone if that is what you are going to do......
under the ICE contact a wise person may also record their NHS number...
Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 2:17 pm
by Kwackerz
Alad.. plasma expander .. is that the stuff they cant give to O Neg?
Obviously O Neg can give to all but can only have O Neg, somewhere once I was told I was fucked if they gave me plasma as I cant have it due to O Neg blood. My boss, also O Neg was told the same.
Just a bit of clarification would be good from someone in the know. I know I can only have O Neg blood, what gives on the plasma side?
Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 3:37 pm
by Aladinsaneuk
Plasma expanders -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_substitutes
two main products
Gelofusine
This preparation is a plasma substitute. It contains modified fluid gelatin which behaves in a similar way to natural plasma albumin.It is used as a short-term measure to expand and maintain blood volume after haemorrhage, acute injury or surgery, burns, serious infection, peritonitis. It produces significant increases in blood volume, in heart output, blood pressure, urine output and oxygen transport to the vital tissues. It protects the kidneys by ensuring that an adequate blood flow is maintained. (NOT TO BE USED FOR JEHOVAS!)
Haemaccel
God botherer friendly so most widely used
A type of intravenous colloid used in the prevention or treatment of shock associated with reduction in effective circulating blood volume due to hemorrhage, loss of plasma (burns, peritonitis, pancreatitis, crush injuries), or loss of water and electrolytes from persistent vomiting and diarrhea. Haemaccel contains degraded gelatin. HAEMACCEL® does not impair coagulation, and does not interfere with blood-typing, even in the case of rapid tests. HAEMACCEL® is not immunogenic, and thus cannot induce antibody formation.
I am no longer fully up to speed on ER treatments but I would use it if i needed to - it may affect the transfusion effect, but transfusing a corpse is not good karma....
Or you could try the Falklands War method of getting fluids into an injured soldier who was hypovolaemic.....
Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 4:52 pm
by D-Rider
Ah .... but you wouldn't know about the special Top Secret Military Grade Plasma which has been specially battlefield-hardened.
It can be given to most combatants but it needs a certain amount of headroom to ensure pressures are safely maintained.
For this reason, it cannot be given safely to people of less than "a certain stature".
To preserve their feelings and maintain morale, they are often told that they happen to be of the wrong blood group.
Please don't spread this information around - the safety of the nation could be compromised if it fell into the wrong hands .........
Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 5:14 pm
by Aladinsaneuk
not going to fall very far from those hands......
Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 10:34 pm
by Kwackerz
very funny.......
