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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:34 am
by DavShill
Hi Craig -welcome aboard. Hell of a choice for your first bike. Let us know how you get on with the search. Lots of good and reliable advice here. When you get hold of one take it easy and be safe.

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:38 am
by BikerGran
Maybe I shouldn't say this here but I feel the need - it always seems a bad idea to me to a) get the bike of your dreams straight away, as there's nothing then to work towards and b) to go straight to a fast bike instead of something a bit less powerful so you can learn to give it a real handful and ride it on the edge - I had such fun wringing the guts out of my little stroker when I started riding, and a smaller bike teaches you so much without doing it at a speed that gets you into trouble you can't get out of.
I just think that going straight to a powerful bike means missing out on some of the grin factor as it's going to be a while before you can use the full capability of the bike.

But hey, I'm just an aging triker (now) and I've never had a fast bike anyway, don't want to rain on your parade and I hope you pass that test soon and have as much fun as I've had over the years!

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:23 pm
by D-Rider
Yes BG - I couldn't have put it better.
And while you are working your way up, you gather that all-too-important experience on bikes that are less likely to bite you on the bum in tricky situations when the unexpected happens.

I'm a great believer in gradual progress over a number of years.

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:13 pm
by Aladinsaneuk
i see it from both sides

i made hanna take her time - sv first then falco, but she wanted something that would do what the falco could with in 2 months of passing her test....

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 7:26 pm
by craig2011
yes all true but at the end of the day that bike will only go as fast as u want it to so the more you throttle it the faster it goes the less throttle the slower it goes

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 7:54 pm
by Willopotomas
craig2011 wrote:yes all true but at the end of the day that bike will only go as fast as u want it to so the more you throttle it the faster it goes the less throttle the slower it goes
The amount of noobs I've heard say that exact same thing and ended up in hospital. My advise (and that of others who've been there) is to get something a little lower powered, lighter and easier to ride first off.. Ease yourself in gently rather than trying to rip yeself a new-un on the first outing.

The added oomph of a full powered Falco even straight after the 33bhp restriction is a massive step. Yes, the throttle works both ways, but it rarely does on a Falco! :smt003

But.. End of it all, it's your life.. Your money.. Your bike. I just hope you don't become a statistic like many others I know who did what you're planning.

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:37 pm
by craig2011
thanks for your concern and can appreciate what you are saying. But do not intend to race around on it, maybe thats what everyone says. I have many years of driving experience yes I know in a car, not a bike. I am also looking into taking advanced lessons to make me safer on the road.

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:00 pm
by Samray
They also forget their roads (and drivers) oop north (and dahn sarf) are a world apart from ours Craig. :smt002
A lot to be said for being 50 yrs behind the times. :smt003

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:11 pm
by D-Rider
Ah yes ..... your famed Launch Ramps and unannounced right angled bends .....






BTW what you choose to do Craig is up to you - we're not going to think badly of you and we're glad you're joining us - it's just the way some of us see things based on our experience. But advice is something to take, consider and apply to the degree you want and in the way you want. Welcome again.
:smt003

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 10:27 pm
by Nooj
Crappy little bikes are part of the initiation. Rossi didn't start straight out on a MotoGP monster, he started at the bottom and worked his way up, experience isn't something you can buy with your first set of leathers. I've only been riding for ten years and have loads still to learn.

Although you are indeed in control of how fast your bike will go, unless you've been driving round in a Zonda or GT4, not one of your driving miles will prepare you for a litre bike's performance. Power corrupts and you will have a LOT of power all of a sudden (and you will love it!).

I know I'm repeating what's already been said, but if at least three people independently give you the same piece of advice, then it's advice worth taking.

Good for you for wanting to do further training, it's the thing that will give you the biggest rewards from your riding, and it'll help keep you alive longer. Get into it the moment you've passed your test, before you pick up any bad habits. You'll learn more in a few months of further training than in a few years of trying to figure it out for yourself.

But whichever route you take into biking, it's the most fun you can have with your clothes on :smt007

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:18 pm
by Jadaris
I got my sv first before falco to I guess mainly get used to the roads and riding, I got bored very soon with the sv but for me personally was the right decision to get sv first but Craig has been pootling around the roads already so has that knowledge.

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:44 pm
by BikerGran
My point was really that it's more fun immediately to have something you can open up! But I guess getting the bike you really want is pretty good fun even if you have to take it a bit steadier - maybe I was just a bit of a tearaway on my little bike!

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:10 pm
by Jadaris
Very true but one of the things I love about the Falco as you can adapt it so suit the rider, so many mods etc

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:35 pm
by MartDude
Jadaris wrote:Very true but one of the things I love about the Falco as you can adapt it so suit the rider, so many mods etc
Like this?


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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:49 pm
by Willopotomas
Jadaris wrote:Very true but one of the things I love about the Falco as you can adapt it so suit the rider, so many mods etc
Yes.. But no more than any other bike to be fair.