New forum member

Make your first post here!

Moderators: Aladinsaneuk, MartDude, D-Rider, Moderators

Message
Author
SL,STEVE
Despatch Rider
Posts: 17
Joined: Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:47 pm
Location: Lowestoft

#16 Post by SL,STEVE » Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:12 pm

Thank you all. The pump is audibly whirring when I put my ear to the tank. I am at my wits end tbh as she is stuck at work in a multi storey car park! I took one plug out and she was dry? I will look at the search facility to see what happens but I am outta my depth with FI....
Of course you dont look fat on a Falco!

User avatar
D-Rider
Admin
Admin
Posts: 15560
Joined: Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:09 pm
Location: Coventry

#17 Post by D-Rider » Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:38 pm

Hi Steve - we need a bit more info as to what is and what isn't happening.

I note that the fuel pump sounds as though it is priming.

When you hit the starter, what happens?
Does the starter motor run and does it turn the engine over?

If so, is the kill switch released? or is it in gear and the sidestand down?

If it's not turning over, are you getting a clicking from the starter relay (and if so, is it a repeated clicking)?

Let us know the answer to some of these and we might get a better idea.

Cheers
“Scientists investigate that which already is. Engineers create that which has never been.”
-- Albert Einstein

User avatar
HisNibbs
SuperBike Racer
SuperBike Racer
Posts: 1796
Joined: Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:24 pm
Location: Market Harborough

#18 Post by HisNibbs » Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:43 pm

Hi,


Is the motor actually cranking over on the starter?

If so then possibly you have an air lock or sucked some debris into the injectors when running it dry. Is there a bleed point ? Is fuel pumping through?
It doesn't sound like you have flooded it but always worth if the motor is cranking over , spinning it on on the starter with full throttle.

if its not turning the motor over then suspect the starter motor relay.
Don't put off 'till tomorrow what you can enjoy today

User avatar
Willopotomas
GP Racer
GP Racer
Posts: 2256
Joined: Sat Mar 06, 2010 10:11 pm
Location: Coventry, ENGLAND

#19 Post by Willopotomas » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:43 pm

Threaten it with a hammer and harsh words like "I'll put the Streetfighter kit on you" and "I'll never change your original shock". That should work. Remember, talking to the experts here. :smt002 :smt003 :smt003
Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handle bars to the saddle.

User avatar
Aladinsaneuk
Aprilia Admin
Posts: 9503
Joined: Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:37 pm
Location: Webfoot territory

#20 Post by Aladinsaneuk » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:58 pm

You working on Friday? I can hunt out my special Lowestoft permit and pop over in the morning


Let's face it, you wouldn't go to a nurse to get good advice on a problem with a Falco - you'd choose an Engineer or a mechanic...


SL,STEVE
Despatch Rider
Posts: 17
Joined: Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:47 pm
Location: Lowestoft

#21 Post by SL,STEVE » Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:12 pm

Thanks all. She turns over but doesnt appear to try and fire. I put a freshly charged battery on her but no luck. Tried the clear a flood technique but no luck. I can hear the pump whirring if I put the tank in the up position and stick my ear to the base of the tank so at a loss as to whats up with her. I am at work friday but the bike is at my work place (long story) so I am available to lend a spanner or hand to get her running, would appreciate some help, thanks in advance! :smt001
Of course you dont look fat on a Falco!

SL,STEVE
Despatch Rider
Posts: 17
Joined: Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:47 pm
Location: Lowestoft

#22 Post by SL,STEVE » Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:13 pm

Aladinsaneuk wrote:You working on Friday? I can hunt out my special Lowestoft permit and pop over in the morning
And I can provide a Lowwey permit if yours has expired haha! Thanks.
Of course you dont look fat on a Falco!

User avatar
D-Rider
Admin
Admin
Posts: 15560
Joined: Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:09 pm
Location: Coventry

#23 Post by D-Rider » Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:14 pm

Aladinsaneuk wrote:You working on Friday? I can hunt out my special Lowestoft permit and pop over in the morning
Is that the day when the tag monitoring system malfunctions and you can travel a bit further?




Actually Steve, Pete is the ideal person to pop over. He probably has more experience than anyone on the forum with Falcos that don't go.

Just a shame that he doesn't have so much experience in getting them to run again (though his friends at Green Flag do)

:smt003
“Scientists investigate that which already is. Engineers create that which has never been.”
-- Albert Einstein

User avatar
D-Rider
Admin
Admin
Posts: 15560
Joined: Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:09 pm
Location: Coventry

#24 Post by D-Rider » Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:30 pm

Hmmmm


Is this wayofthedarkhand's old Falco?

It does seem to exhibit this problem at this time of year https://www.ridersite.com/viewtopic.ph ... tip+switch


...... does anyone know if and how this was resolved last year?
“Scientists investigate that which already is. Engineers create that which has never been.”
-- Albert Einstein

User avatar
danthewhippet
Despatch Rider
Posts: 83
Joined: Thu May 24, 2012 9:16 pm
Location: Glasgow

#25 Post by danthewhippet » Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:58 pm

Hello and Good choice, i'm a fairly recent convert to the falco and you wont be disappointed, great bike and great site. Whether it's mods or repairs these guys can clue you in and point you in the direction of the nearest shop!!
OOPS....There goes another pillion!!

User avatar
DavShill
SuperBike Racer
SuperBike Racer
Posts: 1748
Joined: Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:51 pm
Location: Beverley, East Yorkshire

#26 Post by DavShill » Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:06 am

It was certainly resolved Andy because he visited the Norfolk meet in early September. :smt017

User avatar
Firestarter
Twisted Firestarter
Posts: 1429
Joined: Thu Jan 04, 2007 8:28 am
Location: Northwich, Cheshire

Re: New forum member

#27 Post by Firestarter » Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:36 am

SL,STEVE wrote:ran out of fuel on way to work and she isnt currently working after re-fuel but I have already been given advice on how to rectify and offers of help also, thanks for that again!
Very nice looking bike mate, hope you get it sorted soon.

The above would seem telling to me - ran out of fuel altogether, or just seemed like it did? In either case, could be a blockage in the line/filter, could be the pump is failing (has sufficient "suck" to run, but maybe not to prime the system when empty?) Or possibly it's failing, giving symptoms like running out of fuel? Might be worth pulling the fuel pipe into a container and seeing if it is actually pumping through (carefully of course!)

Or there's always Green Flag :smt018
Aprilia SL1000 Falco '04 in Black & Red

User avatar
Aladinsaneuk
Aprilia Admin
Posts: 9503
Joined: Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:37 pm
Location: Webfoot territory

#28 Post by Aladinsaneuk » Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:36 am

Cheeky sod Andy!

But I deserve it!

Silly, but obvious check - fuses on right hand side of front fairing

Check numbers 1 and 3 - they are tied into the ignition ... With one of them blown, the bike will turn over but not fire
(Ask me how I know!)

The engine stop switch can be a naughty bugger - undo it, clean and wd40

The side stand switch can fail..... Very unusual but! If needs be, disconnect under left hand side under the tank - bridge between pins 1 and 3 to bypass it

Pull a plug and make sure you have a spark

I will PM you green flags number


Let's face it, you wouldn't go to a nurse to get good advice on a problem with a Falco - you'd choose an Engineer or a mechanic...


User avatar
slickliner6
SuperSport Racer
SuperSport Racer
Posts: 548
Joined: Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:26 pm
Location: GT Yarmouth

#29 Post by slickliner6 » Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:42 pm

Ello from across the border.
Pint of twat for me cheers.
A day without a laugh is a day wasted.

we were so poor when i was growing up.Dad said "its a good job i was born a boy,at least id have something to play with" ;-)

SL,STEVE
Despatch Rider
Posts: 17
Joined: Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:47 pm
Location: Lowestoft

#30 Post by SL,STEVE » Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:58 pm

Aladinsaneuk wrote:Cheeky sod Andy!

But I deserve it!

Silly, but obvious check - fuses on right hand side of front fairing

Check numbers 1 and 3 - they are tied into the ignition ... With one of them blown, the bike will turn over but not fire
(Ask me how I know!)

The engine stop switch can be a naughty bugger - undo it, clean and wd40

The side stand switch can fail..... Very unusual but! If needs be, disconnect under left hand side under the tank - bridge between pins 1 and 3 to bypass it

Pull a plug and make sure you have a spark

I will PM you green flags number
I checked all the 15 and 30a fuses, all appear ok? I did shake the bike a bit when I put the new fuel in which didnt seem to help. I plugged the diagnostic in and it showed 0 fault? I wonder if the old fault has reappeared as per previous post by Carl? The bike was on reserve light and just cut out instantly, no usual running outta fuel coughing or spluttering :smt010
Of course you dont look fat on a Falco!

Post Reply